yorolpal
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Anyone here using Komplete Kontrol with one of NI's keyboards?
And if so...
Whatchathank????
I see they've finally got a weighted 88 board so I'm pondering the situation.
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Re: Anyone here using Komplete Kontrol with one of NI's keyboards?
2015/10/28 09:41:46
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I bought the 61-key version a few months ago.
It's built well...
Have to get used to the pitch/mod strips (rather than wheels or joystick).
The key-bed feels much better than most MIDI controllers.
I haven't installed the latest software update (will do that soon).
Browsing thru Komplete sounds directly from the keyboard is a huge step forward for work-flow.
If the 88-key version's key-bed isn't overly stiff/sluggish (murder on my tendentious), I'll end up getting it.
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Re: Anyone here using Komplete Kontrol with one of NI's keyboards?
2015/10/28 19:51:17
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I just bought the KK61 yesterday so don't have much experience with it yet.
Pretty nice to browse thru presets and adjust plug-in parameters with the keyboard knobs and buttons. Seems to work well.
I haven't had any luck making the transport controls work with Sonar probably because I don't know my way around the ACT thing very well. NI knowledge base says you have to configure KK as an MCU control surface which I think I did, but no joy.
And I got another $25 e-voucher that I'll never use.
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Re: Anyone here using Komplete Kontrol with one of NI's keyboards?
2015/10/28 21:09:47
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I have the kk61 and love it!
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Re: Anyone here using Komplete Kontrol with one of NI's keyboards?
2015/10/30 05:48:12
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Whilst researching the Komplete Kontrol keyboards, I came across Matt Cellitti on YouTube with some excellent advanced tutorial stuff (I can tell I'm going to have to go through these several times to learn it properly). One of the great things about these videos is that they're covering before and after the latest 1.5 release of the software. I was pretty amazed and I'm sure you'll find this is useful to you:- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhu8k4_T9y0vkoZS7J_RSjNQk6bKtRoxp (I haven't purchased the KK49 yet, but the decision is made!)
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Re: Anyone here using Komplete Kontrol with one of NI's keyboards?
2015/10/30 07:08:12
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I have just picked up an s61, not tried it with sonar yet but messing around with it in ableton a bit and its a nice piece of kit for sure. Browsing through komplete is a pleasure, the only problem now is gas is kicking in and even though I already have an ableton push I cant help but think how slick it must be to have maschine + the s61 together. Dammit I'm gonna have to buy maschine :D
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Re: Anyone here using Komplete Kontrol with one of NI's keyboards?
2015/10/30 08:21:18
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Anyone one tried the 88 key version yet?
I can't find any detail on what fatar keybed they build in ... it's heavy (14.4 kg) but probably not heavy enough for the best piano fatar keybed ... so i reckon it must be some weighted plastic key version, but I'd appreciate if anyone knows the specs.
I wonder if it could also work as stage piano replacement - any ideas on robustness of the controller / stability of komplete in live situations??? I probably discard the idea as there would be too many components to carry / rig up / potentially fail (S88, audio interface, laptop) but need to research properly first ...
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Re: Anyone here using Komplete Kontrol with one of NI's keyboards?
2015/11/05 22:27:22
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lots of good info and discussion at V.I. Control here and here In particular, dealing with the types of keyboards (wish the 88 WASN'T weighted.... arrrg).
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Re: Anyone here using Komplete Kontrol with one of NI's keyboards?
2015/11/08 17:21:48
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I think I will be end up getting one of these if some more software companies jump aboard. It seems that Orange Tree Samples has which is very good :) I just wish they had a 73 key model with the 88's keys.
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Re: Anyone here using Komplete Kontrol with one of NI's keyboards?
2015/11/11 17:25:21
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I'm interested in this too...
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Re: Anyone here using Komplete Kontrol with one of NI's keyboards?
2015/11/11 22:54:33
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Re: Anyone here using Komplete Kontrol with one of NI's keyboards?
2015/11/12 14:43:18
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I'm torn between the Akai advanced and NI Komplete keyboards. :/ Lots of comparison info out there, but I can't decide which is best for me.
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Re: Anyone here using Komplete Kontrol with one of NI's keyboards?
2015/11/12 18:43:17
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Akai just had an update which added all the rest of the Native instrument Komplete and East West and I have Pad Shop now. I haven't seen any info on all of what new plug are mapped now. The GUI is able to fill the screen now too, which I love. I just put in the update today so I haven't really gotten very far into it yet. The Advance come with a lot of free VSTi's from Air Music tech and Sonivox. They are full program not a trimmed down plugin. Hybrid, Transfuser, Loom, Velvet, Vacuum Pro and Expand. I have had it for awhile and I am liking it more and more as I get used to it. Hope this gives you some info.
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Re: Anyone here using Komplete Kontrol with one of NI's keyboards?
2015/11/12 19:19:00
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Thanks BassDaddy - I'm really leaning towards the Akai...
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Re: Anyone here using Komplete Kontrol with one of NI's keyboards?
2015/11/25 13:31:39
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KK S49 Here.
Loving it.
At first it seemed pretty CPU heavy, but since all the Sonar Updates and NI updates, it hardly hiccups anymore.
JR
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Re: Anyone here using Komplete Kontrol with one of NI's keyboards?
2015/11/25 17:42:50
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I can't find any detail on what fatar keybed they build in ... it's heavy (14.4 kg) but probably not heavy enough for the best piano fatar keybed ... so i reckon it must be some weighted plastic key version, but I'd appreciate if anyone knows the specs.
I am just guessing, but either NI has removed some material from Fatar TP-40 or it is TP-100. And the thread https://www.native-instruments.com/forum/threads/kontrol-s88-which-fatar-keybed.263175/also points indirectly toward TP-100 (TP-40 is "the top" from Fatar, all other MIDI keyboards with it are proud to mention that in specification). With intermediate conclusion: S88 is "not at piano". Note that I do not claim it is bad for other purpose 
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Re: Anyone here using Komplete Kontrol with one of NI's keyboards?
2015/11/26 02:54:09
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I'm also toggling between Akai & Komplete controllers, but I'm not buying till next spring, so there may be more VSTs supported on both/either side.
I suspect the keybeds are similar enough, and it all depends on the synths supported.
Right now, it's a tie.
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Re: Anyone here using Komplete Kontrol with one of NI's keyboards?
2015/11/26 10:09:53
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Yeah, it's a frustrating comparison process. If the NI 61 went on sale not for $499, I'd break that tie! :)
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Re: Anyone here using Komplete Kontrol with one of NI's keyboards?
2015/11/26 17:18:30
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Bought the KK49 and I'm really happy with it. The keys feel really nice, I love the scale and chord facilities, along with the arp. Brilliant!
If you're comparing with the Akai Advance, I think it's a key question whether you have, or are getting Komplete 9/10, because the integration with the KK49 is really great. For me it was a no-brainer because I have a Maschine Mikro as well so it all fits together really nicely.
Between now and January is a great time to buy because they're on sale with $100 off.
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Re: Anyone here using Komplete Kontrol with one of NI's keyboards?
2015/11/26 17:49:32
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Jeff M.
I'm also toggling between Akai & Komplete controllers, but I'm not buying till next spring, so there may be more VSTs supported on both/either side.
I suspect the keybeds are similar enough, and it all depends on the synths supported.
Right now, it's a tie.
I don't think it's a tie at all... they are VERY different animals... did you bother to watch this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvYmXSjxjow
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Re: Anyone here using Komplete Kontrol with one of NI's keyboards?
2015/11/26 19:15:59
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I watched all of the videos and it's still a tie to me. Akia works with other VSTs and has pads, Kontrol has Arp and Chord support and apparently a nicer keybed, etc.
They aren't the same, but it's hard to pick one over the other.
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Re: Anyone here using Komplete Kontrol with one of NI's keyboards?
2015/11/26 21:17:56
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Yep, I've watched the vids and researched both - each have their plusses & minuses.
Still a tie.
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Re: Anyone here using Komplete Kontrol with one of NI's keyboards?
2015/12/02 16:59:38
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I just ordered the Komplete Kontrol S61. Looking forward to seeing what all the fuss is about... :)
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Re: Anyone here using Komplete Kontrol with one of NI's keyboards?
2015/12/07 14:13:32
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Komplete Kontrol definitely has the better keyboard. Which is quite essential. For a keyboard.
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Re: Anyone here using Komplete Kontrol with one of NI's keyboards?
2015/12/07 14:14:16
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It shore duz light up pretty!!!! :)
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Re: Anyone here using Komplete Kontrol with one of NI's keyboards?
2015/12/08 16:28:32
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Finally had a chance to use it - WOW. For the first time I actually was able to play a Kontakt instrument! I was never quite sure how the colored zones worked in the UI. Having the keyboard light them up made it dead simple to experiment.
I'm going to have huge fun - and I think produce some interesting stuff - thanks to this keyboard.
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Re: Anyone here using Komplete Kontrol with one of NI's keyboards?
2015/12/23 20:47:00
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Re: Anyone here using Komplete Kontrol with one of NI's keyboards?
2015/12/29 11:25:34
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smallstonefan
Finally had a chance to use it - WOW. For the first time I actually was able to play a Kontakt instrument! I was never quite sure how the colored zones worked in the UI. Having the keyboard light them up made it dead simple to experiment.
I'm going to have huge fun - and I think produce some interesting stuff - thanks to this keyboard.
Ditto!! I just jumped in myself with a S61 keyboard, and so far I'm REALLY liking the hardware AND the capabilities when adding Komplete Kontrol. Several 3rd-party plugins have been added to the NKS-supported list thanks to the efforts of some talented folks on the NI forums, and it appears that at least one person is working on adding Z3TA+2 to the list! I guess at some point I need to start playing with Komplete Kontrol as a Sonar plugin ~ So far, I've been spending most of my time just exploring all the NI and 3rd-party presets I always overlooked in the past...  RR
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Re: Anyone here using Komplete Kontrol with one of NI's keyboards?
2016/01/22 06:19:44
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My main intrest is the light guide for key switches so the NI keyboards are attractive. I wish there was a longer board with the synth keys. I don't really want piano style weighted keys but I would like more than 61 keys fo accomodate keyswitches better. If there was a 73 note synth key version I would have bought it by now.
Does anyone know if instruments that do not support Komplete Kontrol can have their Keyswitches mapped manually by the user?
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Re: Anyone here using Komplete Kontrol with one of NI's keyboards?
2016/01/27 10:34:44
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Glyn Barnes
My main intrest is the light guide for key switches so the NI keyboards are attractive. I wish there was a longer board with the synth keys. I don't really want piano style weighted keys but I would like more than 61 keys fo accomodate keyswitches better. If there was a 73 note synth key version I would have bought it by now.
Does anyone know if instruments that do not support Komplete Kontrol can have their Keyswitches mapped manually by the user?
+1 on the 88 synth keys. As for the light guide, at first I thought it was a Casio-kidstyle gimmick. Obviously not. Glyn, check out the NI forum for user made mappings ( https://www.native-instruments.com/forum/threads/mapping-templates-for-non-nks-plugins.262959/).
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