Possible PatchPoint Bug: Silent Aux Track? [Solved - input echo required]

Is the input echo on on the aux track? I believe it needs to be on to hear it. Just a guess.

Please, use the cakewalk problem reporter. Try giving them the project. Or call support.

I'm glad someone is using the aux tracks. Truthfully, I haven't spent any time with them yet.

I'd love it if you get all the bugs worked out before I use it!

They may not be buses, but they shouldn't have to share the same input echo system as everything else.  They should have their own.

This is exactly my problem with aux tracks, which I mentioned in this thread. I understand why they are implemented as an input - because they're basically a real-time audio source rather than coming from clip data - but it breaks my common workflow action of clicking the the 'switch all input monitoring off' button. Hopefully Cakewalk will think of a practical fix soon!

stickman393
@MosValve - you were on the right track. I'm sorry I didn't "get it" when you suggested it.

Glad you got it worked out. I found the aux's to be tricky first I used them. Didn't get sound. Turned on input echo and all was well. I don't turn off the input echo from the tool bar but I see how you thought it was a different issue. I don't grasp the patch points yet. Working on it though.

I think this, and the ability to record aux tracks and synth tracks, is a big change and going to take a while for some of us to work out a better workflow (hopefully in conjunction with some bright ideas from Cakewalk). At the moment these are 'mini-landmines' where it's easy for me to break my track in subtle ways, whether accidentally switching off aux tracks, or accidentally recording a synth's audio along with the MIDI and getting it doubled up.
 
Being able to exclude aux inputs from the global input echo disable would be nice. Another option might be to add some sort of 'lock' option to the per-track Input Echo and Record buttons that stops them being toggled by other controls, such as controls in the Control Bar and also in the track folder. That way, if I know I'll never want to record a synth or aux track, or I know I never want to switch off an aux track, I could lock their record buttons to off and the aux input echo to on respectively, and then not worry about them from that point on.

Kylotan
 
Being able to exclude aux inputs from the global input echo disable would be nice. Another option might be to add some sort of 'lock' option to the per-track Input Echo and Record buttons that stops them being toggled by other controls, such as controls in the Control Bar and also in the track folder. That way, if I know I'll never want to record a synth or aux track, or I know I never want to switch off an aux track, I could lock their record buttons to off and the aux input echo to on respectively, and then not worry about them from that point on.

I have no idea whether something like that is actually feasible, but I like it.
 

Right now I simply can't use the Aux tracks because with my tracks having so many layers I might not notice if one was accidentally turned off. But if I could lock them as 'always-on', that would solve the problem for me. A separate button to clear all the input echoes except on Aux tracks would probably avoid the problem, but it still leaves the possibility that I could accidentally click the 'clear all INCLUDING aux tracks' button and never notice. A toggle in the settings instead would be safer, but I too am not a fan of hidden settings that change global behaviour. Just my preference.

WOW... I was going nuts trying to understand why my aux tracks went silent. And because I have them doing some subtle things sometimes and not others I never got the connection between input echo on and off. I wasted a crapload of time because of this and speaking of echos, curse words could be heard echoing down the hallway of my house emanating from my studio.
 
OK, ok probably if I had watched tutorials on it I would have learned this, but the darn Aux tracks seemed so intuitive to use I just started using them with good success at first. 
 
Perhaps I don't understand why input echo is needed. Maybe someone can explain why it was programmed this way.
 
Ugg...
 
Thank you all for this thread I was gonna just stop using them until Cake could work out the bugs...
 
Rick