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Monitorizer: trouble trying to set up the Master send
I'm trying to follow these instructions to use the Monitorizer FX Chain and when I get to #6, I can't assign the send to the new Monitorizer bus (or any bus for that matter). The only thing there is "none", the sound card, and all of the (create) new items. I try insert send assistant...same thing. Nothing in existing bus drop down except for "None" and the sound card and the create "new" items. I've tried creating a new bus from the Master send menu, but that bus cannot route back to the master...only to "none" and the sound card. I suppose this could be a PBCAK (problem between chair and keyboard), but I've tried this many different ways and just can't make it work. Any thoughts?
To use the Monitorizer FX Chain
1. Insert a new stereo bus or Aux track and name it Monitorizer.
2. Assign the bus/Aux track output to the Master bus, and set the Volume control to 0.
3. In the Browser, click the PlugIns button to show the Plug-in Browser.
4. Under Audio FX, expand the FX Chain branch.
5. Click Anderton Collection > Processors, then drag the Monitorizer preset to the Monitorizer bus/Aux track’s FX Rack.
6. Create a post-fader send in the Master bus, and assign the send to the Monitorizer bus/Aux track. Set the Send Level to around -3.
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John
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Re: Monitorizer: trouble trying to set up the Master send
December 03, 15 0:01 PM
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Try this.
1. Create a Monitorizer bus or Aux Track that terminates wherever the master bus terminates. Set the fader to 0.
2. Insert the Monitorizer into this bus.
3. Create a post-fader send in the master that goes to the Monitorizer bus. Set the Send Level to around -3.
4. The Monitorizer FX chain defaults to a reasonably realistic effect, but you can use the controls to customize the effect further.
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keefmeister
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Re: Monitorizer: trouble trying to set up the Master send
December 03, 15 0:23 PM
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Thanks John, but your step 3 is where I have trouble...the Monitorizer bus is not presented as an option in the master bus send menu. The only routing options are "none", the sound card and the insert new items. I don't think I've ever set up a send on the master bus, so the issue may have always been there...not anything to do with the Monitorizer. I'll give this a go on a new test project and see if I have any luck. Thanks again for trying to help!
post edited by keefmeister - December 03, 15 0:35 PM
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Re: Monitorizer: trouble trying to set up the Master send
December 03, 15 0:54 PM
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How about making a sub master buss? Route the aux return out to the sub master and the sub master to the master buss.
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Re: Monitorizer: trouble trying to set up the Master send
December 03, 15 0:57 PM
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Re: Monitorizer: trouble trying to set up the Master send
December 03, 15 1:31 AM
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I have the same issue Marc. The option to route the output from the Monitoriser bus back into the master bus (from a send from the master bus) does not exist. Would this not create a feedback loop? Am I not understanding the instructions correctly?
My workaround was to output the monitoriser to the soundcard, then the master to the monitoriser bus. I could not work out why this would work one way and not another. Then again it's late and I'm not thinking straight.
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Re: Monitorizer: trouble trying to set up the Master send
December 03, 15 10:25 AM
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I'm encountering the same problem as the original poster.
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Re: Monitorizer: trouble trying to set up the Master send
December 03, 15 11:55 AM
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Re: Monitorizer: trouble trying to set up the Master send
December 03, 15 12:37 AM
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☼ Best Answerby keefmeister December 03, 15 3:16 PM
keefmeister
1. Insert a new stereo bus or Aux track and name it Monitorizer.
2. Assign the bus/Aux track output to the Master bus, and set the Volume control to 0.
3. In the Browser, click the PlugIns button to show the Plug-in Browser.
4. Under Audio FX, expand the FX Chain branch.
5. Click Anderton Collection > Processors, then drag the Monitorizer preset to the Monitorizer bus/Aux track’s FX Rack.
6. Create a post-fader send in the Master bus, and assign the send to the Monitorizer bus/Aux track. Set the Send Level to around -3.
I'm not sure where you got those instructions? They're not correct, so please let me know and I'll have them corrected. The eZine documentation I wrote is what you should follow: 1. Create a Monitorizer bus or Aux Track that terminates wherever the master bus terminates. Set the fader to 0. 2. Insert the Monitorizer into this bus. 3. Create a post-fader send in the master that goes to the Monitorizer bus. Set the Send Level to around -3. 4. The Monitorizer FX chain defaults to a reasonably realistic effect, but you can use the controls to customize the effect further. The crucial line is "Wherever the master bus terminates." Typically this will be an audio interface output. You want the monitorizer bus to go to the same place. In the following screen shot, the Master is terminating in my TASCAM US-4x4 interface (outlined in red), and the Monitorizer terminates to the interface as well (also outlined in red). This allows creating a send from the Master to the Monitorizer bus. Hope this helps... 
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Re: Monitorizer: trouble trying to set up the Master send
December 03, 15 2:00 PM
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Thats why I posted that sentence in bold.
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Re: Monitorizer: trouble trying to set up the Master send
December 03, 15 2:53 PM
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Re: Monitorizer: trouble trying to set up the Master send
December 03, 15 7:21 PM
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@John: Sorry I didn't understand your earlier post. And thanks again for trying to help.
@Craig: Thanks for creating this FX chain. I have to work in headphones a lot and Monitorizer will give me another tool to help mix more effectively/realistically. Kudos...
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Re: Monitorizer: trouble trying to set up the Master send
December 03, 15 8:12 PM
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Re: Monitorizer: trouble trying to set up the Master send
December 03, 15 8:28 PM
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keefmeister
@John: Sorry I didn't understand your earlier post. And thanks again for trying to help.
@Craig: Thanks for creating this FX chain. I have to work in headphones a lot and Monitorizer will give me another tool to help mix more effectively/realistically. Kudos...
Not a problem at all. I was hoping Craig would come along and he did.
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Re: Monitorizer: trouble trying to set up the Master send
December 05, 15 3:30 PM
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Thanks for clearing this up, I was making the same mistake on the monitorizer bus.
Works now.
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Re: Monitorizer: trouble trying to set up the Master send
December 05, 15 9:23 PM
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And thanks to the issue being brought up here, I alerted Cakewalk and they fixed the online help.
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Re: Monitorizer: trouble trying to set up the Master send
January 25, 16 8:39 AM
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Someone should do a youtube tutorial on this. I'm having trouble with step #6. Or if someone could break it down step by step would be helpful.
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Re: Monitorizer: trouble trying to set up the Master send
March 08, 16 10:26 AM
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northlake63
Someone should do a youtube tutorial on this. I'm having trouble with step #6. Or if someone could break it down step by step would be helpful.
DITTO this is potentially a great tool as I and many others pretty much only use headphones, be great to have a simple tutorial video, mainly just to check i have it set up correctly.
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Re: Monitorizer: trouble trying to set up the Master send
March 08, 16 11:36 AM
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There is no step 6 in Post #9, which has the correct instructions. If there's still a problem following those steps, circle back here and I'll walk you through it.
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