How To Have Sonar Remove Un-Referenced WAV Files From Project Folder

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2015/12/06 00:00:37 (permalink)

How To Have Sonar Remove Un-Referenced WAV Files From Project Folder

Hello Everyone,

I am recently deleted a lot of audio tracks from a project yet I see the WAV files are still in the audio folder.   I have nothing referencing them, will Sonar delete them eventually?   If not, is there a solution for this?  It is eating away at precious disk space.

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    rebel007
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    Re: How To Have Sonar Remove Un-Referenced WAV Files From Project Folder 2015/12/06 00:44:13 (permalink)
    What I usually do is "Save As" to a new project, then delete the old project. This will save only the WAV's that are currently in use by the project.

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    Re: How To Have Sonar Remove Un-Referenced WAV Files From Project Folder 2015/12/06 00:49:44 (permalink)
    If you do the above you need to also select "Copy Audio to new Project"

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    Re: How To Have Sonar Remove Un-Referenced WAV Files From Project Folder 2015/12/06 01:03:58 (permalink)
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    What I usually do is "Save As" to a new project, then delete the old project. This will save only the WAV's that are currently in use by the project.




    this seems kinda archaic though, I can't believe Sonar isn't smart enough to clean up un-referenced tracks.
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    Re: How To Have Sonar Remove Un-Referenced WAV Files From Project Folder 2015/12/06 02:14:32 (permalink)
    It's not a question of smart. It's a question of not being sure whether audio you recorded presumably for a reason may be needed again. If you're *sure* you won't need it again, you have to tell that to SONAR. See my latest "Friday's Tip of the Week."

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    Re: How To Have Sonar Remove Un-Referenced WAV Files From Project Folder 2015/12/06 04:31:37 (permalink)
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    What I usually do is "Save As" to a new project, then delete the old project. This will save only the WAV's that are currently in use by the project.




    this seems kinda archaic though, I can't believe Sonar isn't smart enough to clean up un-referenced tracks.




    I wouldn't exactly say "archaic", but this method is 100% foolproof

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    Re: How To Have Sonar Remove Un-Referenced WAV Files From Project Folder 2015/12/06 12:12:48 (permalink)
    Anderton
    It's not a question of smart. It's a question of not being sure whether audio you recorded presumably for a reason may be needed again. If you're *sure* you won't need it again, you have to tell that to SONAR. See my latest "Friday's Tip of the Week."



    Hi Anderton,

    I read your tip, but its still a bit cumbersome, and anyway, if you delete all tracks referencing the audio, that is how it IS *sure* you no longer need it.   At least move it to the recycle bin or something.   
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    Re: How To Have Sonar Remove Un-Referenced WAV Files From Project Folder 2015/12/06 16:10:56 (permalink)
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    Hi Anderton,

    I read your tip, but its still a bit cumbersome, and anyway, if you delete all tracks referencing the audio, that is how it IS *sure* you no longer need it. 

     
    Well, not necessarily. The way you work may be compatible with this workflow, but that's not the case for those doing remixes, nor for those who keep multiple versions of a project for different clients or client applications. There have been many times I've had to go back to a previous version that used tracks which were unused in subsequent versions.
     
    I suppose one could always just create a track folder with all the tracks you've stopped using for the moment and mute them so SONAR wouldn't erase them accidentally, but that seems more cumbersome to me than a four-click save.
     
    Consider making a feature request. I don't know of any other DAW that does this, but whether that's because it's too difficult from a coding standpoint because now you need to dip into Windows, would add a considerable amount of time to the saving process, or just that no one's ever thought of it, I don't know. In any event it would need to be a preference, otherwise people who work on the same kind of projects I do could end up being hosed from time to time.
     

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    Re: How To Have Sonar Remove Un-Referenced WAV Files From Project Folder 2015/12/06 16:25:06 (permalink)
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    Hi Anderton,

    I read your tip, but its still a bit cumbersome, and anyway, if you delete all tracks referencing the audio, that is how it IS *sure* you no longer need it. 

     
    Well, not necessarily. The way you work may be compatible with this workflow, but that's not the case for those doing remixes, nor for those who keep multiple versions of a project for different clients or client applications. There have been many times I've had to go back to a previous version that used tracks which were unused in subsequent versions.
     
    I suppose one could always just create a track folder with all the tracks you've stopped using for the moment and mute them so SONAR wouldn't erase them accidentally, but that seems more cumbersome to me than a four-click save.
     
    Consider making a feature request. I don't know of any other DAW that does this, but whether that's because it's too difficult from a coding standpoint because now you need to dip into Windows, would add a considerable amount of time to the saving process, or just that no one's ever thought of it, I don't know. In any event it would need to be a preference, otherwise people who work on the same kind of projects I do could end up being hosed from time to time.
     
     




     
    oh yes, i see your point there!  i didn't think about reverting projects.  OK, I will use your most recent tip - it makes sense now.  Thanks for clarifying!
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    Re: How To Have Sonar Remove Un-Referenced WAV Files From Project Folder 2015/12/06 18:26:29 (permalink)
    SilverBlueMedallion
    oh yes, i see your point there!  i didn't think about reverting projects.  OK, I will use your most recent tip - it makes sense now.  Thanks for clarifying!



    Hey, no problem. I've been bitten by backup issues enough, and have had to resurrect enough material from archives that are over a decade old...
     
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    Re: How To Have Sonar Remove Un-Referenced WAV Files From Project Folder 2015/12/07 14:57:43 (permalink)
    I too use the Save As, with the Copy All Audio option checked, and save it all to a new project folder, so that when finished it has a nice clean Audio folder with only referenced audio clips.
     
    This only affects me when I have vocals or instruments like guitars or brass - if in a midi only project, or mostly midi, there just aren't the kinds of numbers of audio tracks and their multiple audio clips per track that you would normally see.
     
    I HAVE used that clean audio function, but that seemed to take forever, so I just use Save As now, as it is quite speedy. Just ALWAYS remember to double-check the Copy All Audio check box or you will be quite sad.
     
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