Glyn Barnes
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Amazon Digital Music
I have almost completely gave up on buying music downloads, instead I almost always buy a CD. Most of my recent purchases have been through the artists own websites or from the merchandise stalls at venues. So tonight I decided to buy a download from Amazon.  It seems they have gone out of their way to out do iTunes in the inconvenience stakes. Amazon always used to be so easy, not anymore! First they try to ram their streaming service "Prime" down your throat, you have to go searching to actually buy things! Once purchased you are supposed to be able to down load a ZIP file containing the songs. I tried 3 browsers, did not work on any of them so I had to install the Amazon Music Library program to get my hands on my purchase. I finally managed to download the songs though I have yet to find them on my hard drive. Meanwhile the “app” is trying to encourage me to use Prime and use up my band width streaming every other album I have every bought from them (including CDs by the look of it.) Good job all this crap is installed on my old Vista PC.
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Re: Amazon Digital Music
2015/12/06 16:41:30
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Thats not my experience. Prime is only offered to those that have it. You may need to download the Amazon music program. Though you can DL the music directly. I have never seen it offered as a zip file. Each song is an MP3. Normally after purchase a dialog pops up asking to DL it or not. At that point I open the Amazon music app that will DL what ever is ready to be DLed. It will also put in is a directory for me.
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Glyn Barnes
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Re: Amazon Digital Music
2015/12/06 17:06:07
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Maybe it was a glitch but the regular download resolutely refused to work. Once installed the program downloaded the files OK. Maybe I am getting pestered about Prime because we have had a 12 month trial. In the beginning it was handy for free postage but its getting more annoying and I won't be renewing it in a week or two when it expires. The frustration has died down now but I still feel they are trying to push their streaming on me. They would not even let me stop the free Prime subscription.
post edited by Glyn Barnes - 2015/12/06 17:20:04
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Re: Amazon Digital Music
2015/12/06 19:15:49
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I got back to CDs the minute we settled here. I order most of them from Amazon and never bother to get the downloadable version. I hate messing with CD's, so I just rip everything to .wav files and store the CDs. Things seem to have gotten a whole lot more complicated when it comes to watching TV or listening to music. I can't tell you how much time I spend coping with forced upgrades and re-entering passwords every week or so on that so-called Smart TV. Same with the latest iTunes which is constantly prompting me for my iCloud password even though I don't use that service. They seem to be adding options and to try to make everything some kind of online event that needs to be shared on social media and all. Me, I would like a "if it ain't broke..." option.
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Glyn Barnes
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Re: Amazon Digital Music
2015/12/07 06:15:41
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Rain They seem to be adding options and to try to make everything some kind of online event that needs to be shared on social media and all. Me, I would like a "if it ain't broke..." option.
Thats pretty much the way I see it.
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Re: Amazon Digital Music
2015/12/07 09:55:47
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Streaming will NEVER replace physical media...in my heart, at least. I don't see, in the near future at least, streaming services offering hi-res uncompressed audio. Heck, the "HD" that you get on cable and satellite includes lossy Dolby 5.1 and panned-n-scanned compressed video. I bought what DVD-Audio and DSD CDs that I could, assuming both would die...and for the most part, they have.
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Re: Amazon Digital Music
2015/12/07 10:22:45
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Used to be the Amazon Music Downloader, now it's Amazon Music which handles Prime music, downloading MP3's you've bought and also accessing / uploading to your cloud-based music account, including any MP3's you have which were not purchased on Amazon. However, the music downloader is still available if you would prefer to use that. I've never had any issues personally, I am a Prime member but was using their cloud services way before that. I've only ever bought one 'digital' (i.e. MP3) album, ever. If I really want some music I'll get the CD (if possible, auto-ripped on Amazon), then rip it and therefore have access to it more or less wherever I am. I've not really had any problems with using Amazon's music services/software, other than the (new) Amazon Music software's rather unintuitive interface. However, they're hardly alone in providing software with a crap interface.
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Re: Amazon Digital Music
2015/12/07 13:04:37
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I just don't have the time to open a CD case and pop it in the tray anymore. So I'm Spotify all the way. I buy the occasional download from artists whom I want to give extra support to, but never from iTunes or anywhere like that. I always get the FLAC's from the artist's own links. Whatever disadvantages Spotify has, they're more than neutralized by its functionality and convenience.
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Re: Amazon Digital Music
2015/12/07 13:09:21
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except that spotify does not pay the artists whose music they stream, crap.
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Re: Amazon Digital Music
2015/12/07 14:02:10
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Re: Amazon Digital Music
2015/12/07 16:47:35
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Well, allegedly, no matter the percentage, streaming doesn't seem to be that much of a source of income for musicians. Me, I'd pay $30 an album if it meant that the production values go back to what they once were. But since albums are often even less expensive than they were when I was growing up in the 80's, and people are not even bothering to buy them anymore, this isn't going to happen any time soon... We get what we refuse to pay for.
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sharke
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Re: Amazon Digital Music
2015/12/07 17:16:25
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Artists get paid from streams, it's just that the total they earn per fan is paid gradually throughout the fan's interest in a song rather than all at once at the point of purchase.
Let's say you have a CD containing 10 tracks that's retained your interest over the last 10 years and you've listened to it once a week. That's 5200 listens from which the artist earned a couple of dollars in royalty. How much would have they earned from the equivalent number of Spotify streams? Maybe about the same. I guess if you want to earn money from streams, you'd better put out albums of consistently good songs that people don't get bored of. Personally I've always felt ripped off after buying CD's for $20+ that have been left on the shelf after a couple of listens.
Besides which given that Spotify is used by a tiny fraction of music consumers, I really don't know how much artists are expecting to make from it.
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Re: Amazon Digital Music
2015/12/07 17:25:07
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Pretty much ALL the music I've purchased over tha past 5 years has been via Amazon. MP3 purchases were far from convenient, and sometimes required a couple retries. I really don't bother with MP3s anymore unless I just want one song. Instead, I prefer to buy used CDs and rip them myself. That way I've got a hardcopy backup, and a copy to keep in the car. The price is usually the same as, if not less than, an album download. A slight pang of guilt, though, knowing the artist gets nothing from my transaction. I reckon somebody will make up the difference for me when they buy a $100 concert ticket and a T-shirt.
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Re: Amazon Digital Music
2015/12/09 10:49:51
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Music is not about notes and chords! My poem is not about the computer or monitor or letters! It's about how I was able to translate it from my insides!
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Rain
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Re: Amazon Digital Music
2015/12/09 15:19:18
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On a sidetone - Even though in itself, the experience of listening to a vinyl record can be gratifying on many levels, the pragmatic in me sides with digital media. That being said, I think that, no matter how hard they try and package them, CD's - as a physical support - suck. Not only do they have no personality, but from unwrapping to trying to remove the actual CD from it's jewel case w/o breaking anything, working with CDs seem to be an exercise in inconvenience. The gratifying aspect of unpacking a vinyl, the smell of it, the static when you pulled the actual disc from its paper sleeve... If CD's offered anything similar in terms of experience, I might no be so prone to rip and store them.
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Re: Amazon Digital Music
2015/12/09 16:28:15
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Firstly, can I say, I had exactly the same experience as Glyn - I was passing through the UK, I purchased the new Wolf Alice CD which came with a "free" download, so I tried to download - what a pile of crap that was, and I got the message about the zip file etc - gave up on that and picked the physical cd up when I passed back through the UK! I love Vinyl, still have my vinyl collection and have actually just upgraded my deck and cartridge. Totally agree with Rain - when CD's came out, they could never compare nor compete with the "event" that getting the latest release on vinyl was - the music, the artwork, perhaps cover notes. CD's cannot compete for obvious space restrictions. However they are more convenient so I have a lot of them as well as my vinyl! Nigel
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Re: Amazon Digital Music
2015/12/09 16:41:54
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i've had several people download my new album from Amazon.... and no one has mentioned any issues at all. i have an amazon account as well, and store a lot of my purchased tunes on the amazon cloud, and stream them whenever i want to listen, again, never any issues.
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sharke
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Re: Amazon Digital Music
2015/12/09 16:50:38
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Does anyone remember borrowing vinyl from the library? I remember each LP would have a large sticker on the front on which was a circle divided into quadrants. Known scratches were drawn in their correct location on the circle so that if you returned it scratched, there would be no arguments about whether or not it was already damaged. Seems crazy now.
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Re: Amazon Digital Music
2015/12/09 17:28:21
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Sharke - wow vinyl from the Library - I had forgotten about that - you must look a lot younger in your photo than you really are!! Well unless you started listening to music and going to the library at a very young age!! Nigel
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Re: Amazon Digital Music
2015/12/09 18:55:03
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Well I was born in 73 and vinyl was still pretty much dominant until I was 13 or 14. I seem to recall taking an AC/DC album out of the library when I was about 12.
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