Everything's A Remix

Yo Mr. Bob, that was interesting.  It was long, and I lost interest after awhile, because I seen this before
 
Ecclesiastes 1:9..."What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun."
 
I don't know though.
 
Here is a cool link, Mr. Mosquito might like it cause he is into movies, but he pry seen it before, but it is still a cool read, kind of...
 
http://brightlightsfilm.com/on-the-road-to-the-ninth-circle-of-hell-easy-rider-merges-lanes-with-dantes-inferno-and-faust/
 
If you got time, and you ain't making nothing new, check it out.
 
Jesse
 
Oh and by the way, all is vanity too.

I liked it. 

Hi,
 
I never reviewed "Easy Rider" and will likely have to see it again, because a lot of it is kind of lost in my head. At the time, I thought the film was over blown and it was just a stony trip down to whatever, and I kind of thought that the premise that it was based on something else, is not really as clear, and the folks shooting the film were too ripped to even know who Faust or Dante were. Hollywood, after all, is not exactly known for their literary talent. It's more like mannequin talent and shapes than anything else.
 
I will likely review it since it is a seminal film for that time ... although I did not find (at the time) a whole lot that was major or interesting, even as a film itself ... but it is pure "Americana"!

Hey Mr.BodF, I’m glad that I revisited this video.  Except, now I’m really confused.
 
Mostly I’m confused about where copying ends and originality begins.
 
Thankfully, according to the reviews I receive on the song forum, my creations are quirky, weird, and way out there.  o I can't imagine anyone would try to sound like me.  Who the hell am I copying? Got to be somebody right?
Ah heck, I don’t know what I’m talking about.
 
I do believe in the common good though.
 
So, I will make a deal with the spirits that be.  If one of my songs ever makes it to the top of the charts, whatever in the world that means, I will give any profits that song makes to feeding starving children in Sudan, or Detroit, it doesn’t matter, there’s starving children everywhere.
 
But, if I ever have another song make it to the top, I’m going to by me a new pair of shoes.
 
I’ll go to work tomorrow and make some more widgets.
 
WTH, I’m need to stop taking things so seriously.
 
Jesse

I came.
I watched.
I copied.
 

craigb

bapu
I came.
I watched.
I copied.

 
Bapu came, Bapu watched and Bapu copied.  I remixed. 
 

I arrived, observed, duplicated and blended

craigb

bapu
I came.
I watched.
I copied.

 
Bapu came, Bapu watched and Bapu copied.  I remixed. 

Still over blown and the same!

Jesse Screed
Hey Mr.BodF, I’m glad that I revisited this video.  Except, now I’m really confused.
Mostly I’m confused about where copying ends and originality begins.
 
...

The nature of the 20th and 21st century has been the recording of "history" and the "record keeping" of it. As such, the amount of material increases to an astonishing level and continues to rise.
 
As this continues, I predict (cynicism at its best!) that no one can be original anymore, which in a funny sort of cartoon way is what some of these "troll" types want ... the money is already taken up and no one else can get a nickel anymore, because ... the money is already taken up! To me, this is a bit scary, because it means none of us can create anything new, and someone will inevitably say that the 4 notes you wrote came out of some this and that 100 years ago, and you are violating the rights of some ash ridden corpses somewhere, making money for .... who knows? Like wise, you can never again, start a story with "Time was that ...." or "It was a long time ago ... " because someone else has already copyrighted that ... and pretty soon, the whole system will crash on its own weight, because even its own folks will get caught up in their own trap sooner or later.
 
There is/are, such things as "originals", but again, if anyone breaks down its parts, the relative mentions are so many and so far that no one can even mention anything in its proper context ... I mean, look at one example the "Remix" showed, with "Carrie", and no one wants to see how much it copied a Luis Bunuel film that became the scourge of the Church that attacked it vehemently and made it more famous ... but you were trapped, and in the end, you go to another church ... and you are trapped again. And while you don't see the doors slam, you do see the doors as ... can't get close to them, or touch them ... as if they were bigger than life and something that you did not touch, discuss or ... sounds familiar in many ideals we have from a few books, doesn't it?
 
I, for example, do not claim originality, except in the way I present it. My brain functions like a dream or a movie and it has a very bad sense of "timing" and that means that it moves forward and backwards with a lot of ease, and it is like a 3 or 4 part movie happening at the same time, and the audiences hate watching it, because they can not make sense of each individual prime time simple story ... well, if life were that simple ... 
 
A very tough film to watch, if anyone ever has, is Peter Greenaway's "The Pillow Book", and the harsh part of it is that the film goes on for almost its entirety with a small square where something else is taking place, and that is TO ME a perfect how your mind and mine works, with the side effect that sometimes we are not honest enough to admit what is really happening in there and what it is suggesting, which we notice at times, and not at others. It's very difficult to make sense of any of it, within a film, for many reasons, but it creates an astounding element that drives you crazy ... is that what she is thinking? Is that what she is writing? ... and these do not always mix at all.
 
I would admit that all of it is a remix, but this "remix" does not always have a time span or element tied to it, and this is the part that makes things very difficult to explain and discuss. I do not have stories, or visions of a past life at all, but I have seen things that I think are future, and sci-fi like that I can not explain, including sounds of instruments I have never heard ... one of the reasons why I love so much experimental music ... to find those sounds.
 
I'll finish reading the Easy Rider thing .. but seeing that Terry Southern was involved, adds another dimention to it, that I had not quite understood, or thought about. Some of his other writings, are very interesting, and even while being silly (Candy), he is still pointed and suggesting a lot of different things while also making obvious comments about other things. So, finding the Faustian and Dante ideas mixed into this, is all of a sudden more interesting, but I certainly do not want it to become just another stony fantasy of some stupid movie is the sidetrack to Dark Side of the Moon! That one, was one of the worst I have ever heard! It even has no literary or intellectual merit for me or most people here.

BobF
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I realize this wasn't your primary point, but the idea of "money hoarding" has been gaining popularity since the laughable OWS "movement".
 ...

I was thinking of it in terms that the Sociology 101 taught you and I on the first day of class at the U. Something like 97% of all the money is controlled by 3% of the people ... and no one can, or does anything about it. Now, I ask you, without politics ... do we really want a Trump in there?
 
Eventually these things filter down to everything else, and this is where America has the opportunity to do something about it. For example, Europe is still controlled/governed by the richest of the rich, and they even have, on many countries, laws that prevent you from saying anything bad against these upper class folks. It's a control mechanism, kinda separating the lower classes from the rest. And likewise, we know the arts were for the rich, by the rich with the rich for many years, and kinda still are ... except that MUSIC (popular or jazz, or otherwise), specially in America, busted that out completely since the 1950's. In Europe, there are still issues ... for example, after the Sex Pistols, the "low class" goes back to being no one! Same for most rappers after their 15 minutes, even in America.
 
The hope, for you and I, is that those systems can be busted or opened up ... like supposedly they were in America, but try to get the Supreme Court to watch that video ... so they stop all this glut for a bigger company and these megamergers ... it won't happen! ... and this means there is no real oversight for a lot of it. And AT&T keeps getting bigger, though Comcast still feels they can over take AT&T in the next 10 to 20 years!

I now have a TON of new material! Thanks!!
 
You know if you did truly original music, no one would like it. It would be too weird by default.
J
 
@Pedro... I have never seen ET or The Green Mile. Lots of things I chose to not see though I may make an effort to see The Green Mile, then again maybe not. Easy Rider was a "B" movie at best. You didn't miss much.
 
I wish they would release the complete footage from The Atlanta Pop Festival and Woodstock, I don't care if it takes three days to watch it.. I would be interested in seeing everything instead of some polished short segment that someone else decides is good. Never gonna happen is it?
 

Thanks Pedro. My favorite Dead album is by far LIVE/DEAD. They did that stuff VERY well. Then came American Beauty and everything changed. It WAS a good album but something completely different. They, for lack of a better term, "grew up".. most likely they stopped taking acid. Owsley was in jail but Nick Sand was pumping it out... however at some point everyone moves on, I think they did and it showed in the music style.
Just an opinion however...
 
I'll check out the movie.