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2015/12/12 14:04:00 (permalink)

How to identify redundant windows files

I was seeing my system slowly fill up the drives but I was not installing new files. While looking today I find there's a 16 gig files called windows.old and a couple other $windows folders. I've also got 20 C++ libraries on my system in 32 and 64 bit formats.
 
It seems most of this stuff is just taking up space but I don't know if I can delete any of it.
 
I need a computer wiz to help me sort out the junk, any ideas?

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Re: How to identify redundant windows files 2015/12/12 14:15:14 (permalink)
The Windows.old, is the old version of windows, have you just update to the latest release build of win 10?
Might be needed to roll back.  As for the C++ libraries if you look large bits of your 64 bit system is still running 32 bit, Graphics drivers etc.

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Re: How to identify redundant windows files 2015/12/12 14:51:52 (permalink)
I suggest getting CCleaner... works great. Also, I deleted windows.old because I don't plan on rolling back to Win8.1
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Re: How to identify redundant windows files 2015/12/12 18:21:38 (permalink)
I have CCleaner set up as a TSR, it's always on. I couldn't delete windows.old, it wouldn't allow me to. It looks like I'll have to buy yet another SSD because everything creates junk. I freed up a bunch of space by going into the CCC download folder and deleting old versions I'll never go back to.

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Re: How to identify redundant windows files 2015/12/13 06:34:04 (permalink)
I avoid the "duplicate file finder" programs.  A same file may be in two different locations and the applications that use that file may only look at specific locations.  If the duplicate file has been removed from one location, and its the one that a specific application uses it will error since it won't look at another location that has the file.

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Re: How to identify redundant windows files 2015/12/13 09:32:52 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby mettelus 2016/01/09 21:22:28
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I was seeing my system slowly fill up the drives but I was not installing new files. While looking today I find there's a 16 gig files called windows.old and a couple other $windows folders. I've also got 20 C++ libraries on my system in 32 and 64 bit formats.
 
It seems most of this stuff is just taking up space but I don't know if I can delete any of it.
 
I need a computer wiz to help me sort out the junk, any ideas?




I'm not sure if WinX is the same as 8.1 for this, but the disk cleanup utility that comes with Windows does a decent job of cleaning up Windows/MS clutter.  I usually get a few gig back when I run it, but you have to use the advanced option to cleanup system files.  Apologies if this is all something you already know, or happens to be N/A for WinX:
 

 
To get rid of all but the latest System Restore file go to More Options
 

 
I would leave the C++ stuff alone.  These are probably the runtime libraries that are specific to the version of the MS compiler used to create programs.  Every time there is an update or new version of the tools, a new runtime is created ... but programs created with the older tools still need the older version.
 
 

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Re: How to identify redundant windows files 2015/12/14 11:03:03 (permalink)
Def. clean up (AKA delete) any files under users\<you|anybody>\AppData\Local\Temp, often a few GBs rack up there.  Often one or two files will be in-use/locked, but you can blow away the rest.
 
Also, temporary internet files can build up over time, I recently removed a bunch of them dated 2010-2013 (?!) which amounted to another couple of GBs.  c:\users\<you|Default|anybody>\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows for the IE temporary internet files folder, not sure about Mozilla/Chrome/Opera etc. (simple enough to search).
 
Regarding the Windows.old folder, I believe that Windows cleans this up after a month of so of it hanging around, it's the OS which you upgraded from.  You could always back it up in case you want to go back to the previous version of Windows.
 
Pretty much all installers leave tons of guff hanging around in the system registry, you can free up some space by running a decent registry cleaner against it.  I think CCleaner is about £20.
 
Another thing worth checking is the location/size of the swap and hibernation files (pagefile.sys, hiberfil.sys).  I believe that you have some control over the size & location of the swapfile and possibly the location of the hibernation file.  This can also help to free up q. a bit of space.
 
Also, check your downloads folder, this can often get rather large.
 
HTH :-)
 
p.s. I only have 17 C++ redistributable packages installed, but I do have 34 separate M$ SQL Server packages installed - go me!  I guess they'll come in handy if I ever actually use SQL Server..?!
post edited by ston - 2015/12/14 11:18:44
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Re: How to identify redundant windows files 2015/12/18 14:21:25 (permalink)
I've cleaned a bunch of stuff from my drives and have liberated over 20 gig of junk. Windows is the biggest culprit. It doesn't clean up after it's done making changes. The windows.old file is locked out and I've long since past the point of going back to version 7.
 
Sonar was another bad actor. The ease of rolling back comes with a price. Everything I've ever bought and every update is stored locally by the command center. I saved a bunch of space by deleting versions that I'll never roll back to, or in some cases programs that were problematic and got quick updates. We need a utility for the command center that will clean up old files or allow you to specify how many versions you want to store.

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Re: How to identify redundant windows files 2015/12/18 17:05:08 (permalink)
in ccleaner there is also a dupe file finder,  under tools menu..  which I've found useful
 
the other thing , look for "tree size free" by jam software, it'll show you bloated area's of ya drives
 
the most bizarre one I had years ago, on my sisters machine.. was a few 4mb photo's was reporting as 4gb.. so loading em up and re-saving em magically made em shrink instantly :)
 
have a look for things like "pdf" as you may find you have some foreign language ones also
 
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Re: How to identify redundant windows files 2015/12/19 12:40:24 (permalink)
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I've cleaned a bunch of stuff from my drives and have liberated over 20 gig of junk. Windows is the biggest culprit. It doesn't clean up after it's done making changes. The windows.old file is locked out and I've long since past the point of going back to version 7.
 
Sonar was another bad actor. The ease of rolling back comes with a price. Everything I've ever bought and every update is stored locally by the command center. I saved a bunch of space by deleting versions that I'll never roll back to, or in some cases programs that were problematic and got quick updates. We need a utility for the command center that will clean up old files or allow you to specify how many versions you want to store.




John - CCC has an option to specify a preferred location for downloads.  No need to copy all of the current files to the new location.  If you do decide to rollback, CCC will download whatever files it needs if they aren't already in the downloads folder.

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D­u­p­l­i­c­a­t­e­F­i­l­e­s­D­e­l­e­t­e­r is a simple, but effective tool to locate duplicate files in one or more selected search paths. It scans the files and compares them based on Byte for Byte Comparison, which ensures 100% accuracy. You can then choose to delete the selected duplicate or original files. The program is multi-threaded and performs scans quickly.
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Re: D­u­p­l­i­c­a­t­e­F­i­l­e­s­D­e­l­e­t­e­r 2016/01/09 20:16:42 (permalink)
I have a 120 GB SSD primary drive, and it contains Windows and all applications, and AppData and such, but that's it.
 
There is a Location tab on your user library folders, and I have all of mine relocated to one of several 2 TB 7,200 drives to keep my primary drive clean.  (scook uses a 'link' of some sort to relocate his - you could PM him if interested in that approach, either one works fine).
 
All Sonar content and projects, sample libraries, and all Cakewalk Command Center download files/folders all live on on of the non-SSD drives as well.
 
As a result of the above, my SSD never gets above 40 % full or so, and is just not an issue.
 
I also regularly clean out temp files and such, so things don't really build up.
 
I hope that is of some help :)
 
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Re: D­u­p­l­i­c­a­t­e­F­i­l­e­s­D­e­l­e­t­e­r 2016/01/09 21:11:21 (permalink)
From a "duplicate" standpoint, duplicates on a single drive are highly unlikely and are normally created by a user copying files to other locations. Typically backup media will contain duplicates over anything else, especially if the user changed (main) folder structure or file locations between backups.
 
From a space perspective, a simple check for a drive is using Windows Explorer, selecting the drive, and click the search box in the upper right. Selecting "Size" and going through "Gigantic (>128MB)" and a second pass on "Huge (16-128MB)" will often give insight on offenders. Temporary directories for audio/video programs are a big one to watch because of the size of these data files, but most also allow assignment of this directory in the stand-alone version of the software (e.g., Melodyne). Download folders, and temporary directories are another (also covered above in BobF's post).

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Re: D­u­p­l­i­c­a­t­e­F­i­l­e­s­D­e­l­e­t­e­r 2016/01/10 11:21:46 (permalink)
I just ran Disk Cleanup as indicated above by BobF and freed up another 16.9GB!  A whole chunk of that was system update log files of all things.
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Re: D­u­p­l­i­c­a­t­e­F­i­l­e­s­D­e­l­e­t­e­r 2016/01/10 11:21:54 (permalink)
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post edited by ston - 2016/01/10 11:34:46
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Re: D­u­p­l­i­c­a­t­e­F­i­l­e­s­D­e­l­e­t­e­r 2016/01/10 13:21:15 (permalink)
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From a space perspective, a simple check for a drive is using Windows Explorer, selecting the drive, and click the search box in the upper right. Selecting "Size" and going through "Gigantic (>128MB)" and a second pass on "Huge (16-128MB)" will often give insight on offenders. 



Or if you are willing to wait a bit WinDirStat, a free utility will draw you a beautiful picture of the mess.
https://windirstat.info/
 
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