Sync audio to video ??? (I'm new to Sonar, and getting NOWHERE!)

@ Zargg71"Hi. I do not know which version of SONAR you have, but maybe this will be of help."
 
According to the "About Sonar" tab on the "Help" draw-down menu, it's "Sonar LE 8.5.1.17"  Even when I press "record" on the camcorder half a second after pressing "record" on the workstation, the video always seems to be ahead of the audio recording.  
 
I'm thinking I should just keep trying 'till I finally figure out the timing.  This process was much easier with my previous DAW (Boss BR 1180-CD) because all I had to do was start the camcorder the instant I took my finger off the "record" button on the DAW, and the video and audio would always be perfectly sync'd once I imported them to Windows Movie Maker.  
 
 
@ LPMike75; "Make a sharp noise at the beginning of the film recording.  This way you can line up the visual with the audio transient after you import both in to Soanr.  There could be other factors regarding frame rate sync issues,  but this might be all you need."
 
My Fujita Xtreme Bullet HD Lite II sports action camcorder (basically it's a "helmet-cam," similar to a GoPro, only cheaper) records 720 p video @ 60 fps.  The video is always crystal-clear and brilliantly sharp, but the audio recording level is extremely low; when I'm playing guitar through my Boss BR 800 and have my home theater system turned up enough to feel the bass, the sound input from the camcorder is so weak that it sounds like I'm playing unplugged.  
 
I'll just keep plugging away 'till I find the right timing, I guess.  So far, I haven't been able to make heads or tails of this Sonar LE stuff; even though I've been working with computers since the late 80's, I'm not that proficient with software...if you gave me a pile of parts, I could probably built you a working computer, but programming is just beyond me. 
 
Thanks for your input, guys!

Mac Leahy
I have no clue how to edit excess time off the front end of the audio.  

If you are trying to move the audio to a point before the first measure, you're right; it's not set-up to allow you to slide a clip back further than that.  You may need to move both the video and audio far enough into the timeline so that you have the flexibility to move the audio both earlier and later (left and right).  Once the two are synched, you can simply delete the unused portions or cut the volume where you don't want to hear it.
 
Does that make sense?  Have I understood your problem?
 
-- Rick

@ Rick; I'm not recording anything with Sonar; I'm trying to sync audio and video from two other sources, my DAW (Boss BR 800) and camcorder.  There is always a gap on the audio before the first sounds (drummer count in) are heard.  
 
I can't record ANY audio with the camcorder, because the microphone is a total and complete dud.  Even with my sound source turned WAY up (the neighbours can feel the bass) the audio on the camcorder barely even picks up the acoustic sound of the electric guitar, and that's all.  (That's why the previous comment about "using an audio click" simply can't work.)  
 
Thanks for the efforts, guys, but at this point you might as well just forget it.  I'll just have to keep struggling to master the timing between the camcorder and new DAW, rather than learning a whole new program from scratch.    

Again, I am not "recording" anything WITH Sonar, I WAS merely trying to sync audio and video from two other sources USING Sonar LE, which came bundled with the new DAW.  
 
I will not be doing so anymore, because I have found Sonar LE to be absolutely incomprehensible and completely useless; the icons are positively microscopic, and it didn't come with a simple "straightforward text plus illustrations" instruction manual.  (Instead, it only offers a bunch of YouTube "instructional videos," which is a bloody stupid way to do business.)    
 
Again, I used to be able to do this VERY easily with my old DAW (Boss BR 1180-CD), my sports action camcorder and Windows Movie Maker, but the old DAW died; I wanted to get the next one in the series (Boss BR 1200) but it was no longer available in any "brick and mortar" stores, and I can't shop online.  
 
That's how I found myself stuck with the Boss BR 800 instead, and it is proving EXTREMELY difficult to find the EXACT start time for the camcorder so that the two recordings will match up.  (I also absolutely HATE the BR 800's "touch-sensitive controls.")
 
No, I can't perform a "sharp sudden movement" because my hands are already full; I only have two hands, after all, one of which is needed on the DAW and the other is needed on the camcorder.
 
Once again, I will not be using Sonar for several very good reasons, not least of which because it did not come with a proper (straightforward text plus illustration) instruction manual.
 
So again, thanks very much, but just drop it already.  
 

Mac Leahy
The "audio clap" won't be audible on the video because the microphone on the camcorder is a dud, and there won't be any "audio clap" on the DAW because I'm recording an instrument, not vocals.  I can't do instruments/vocals at the same time.  (Or at least not without sacrificing that most sacred of all aspects of music..."tone.")  

You don't have to hear the clap on the video....just "see" the frame where the hands meet.  That is how the "clap board" works.  The audio mixer finds the clap and puts it in the frame where the top stripe makes full contact with the bottom half.  Has been done that way for over 75 years. 

It sounds to me that he is trying to do in camera editing. If that is the case, and using different sources, he is always going to have issues.