Guitarhacker
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 24398
- Joined: 2007/12/07 12:51:18
- Location: NC
- Status: offline
Heavens Angel ( new mix)
This one has been setting on the back burner since the summer. Essentially an experiment in minimalist songwriting. A bit of influence by The Mavericks.... a country band from a few years back Heaven's Angel Six days since I saw her seems like eternity I can't wait to hold her hand let her kisses set me free Her smile kept me going, Teasing, in my dreams When I stand beside her, moonlight magic on the breeze Soon my waiting will be over And I will see her once again Standing silent in the moonlight Heaven's angel waits for me Gold ring, in my pocket Giving her my best On bended knee before her, I pray to God that she says yes
post edited by Guitarhacker - 2016/01/02 14:29:58
My website & music: www.herbhartley.com MC4/5/6/X1e.c, on a Custom DAW Focusrite Firewire Saffire Interface BMI/NSAI "Just as the blade chooses the warrior, so too, the song chooses the writer "
|
dcumpian
Max Output Level: -34 dBFS
- Total Posts : 4124
- Joined: 2005/11/03 15:50:51
- Status: offline
Re: Heavens Angel
2015/12/18 10:12:22
(permalink)
Bass, and more importantly, the kick could come up a bit. The mix is pretty bright and feels like the bottom is, more or less, missing. Haven't heard a country song with accordion since I left Texas years (almost 30 years) ago, so this has a very retro feel, to me anyway. Lead vocal is framed nicely by all of the other elements. BGV could stand to come up just a little. Very clean and open mix overall. Nicely done Herb! Regards, Dan
Mixing is all about control. My music: http://dancumpian.bandcamp.com/ or https://soundcloud.com/dcumpian Studiocat Advanced Studio DAW (Intel i5 3550 @ 3.7GHz, Z77 motherboard, 16GB Ram, lots of HDDs), Sonar Plat, Mackie 1604, PreSonus Audiobox 44VSL, ESI 4x4 Midi Interface, Ibanez Bass, Custom Fender Mexi-Strat, NI S88, Roland JV-2080 & MDB-1, Komplete, Omnisphere, Lots o' plugins.
|
markno999
Max Output Level: -62 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1450
- Joined: 2007/08/27 18:09:30
- Status: offline
Re: Heavens Angel
2015/12/18 10:35:15
(permalink)
Herb, Sounds like a mix of the Mavericks and JD Souther:) Very good song and overall performance. I agree with Dan that it seems bright and lacking some bottom end..... like HPF is setting too high. Otherwise, the mix is good. Had a couple listens.....excellent song... Regards
|
String Jammer
Max Output Level: -81 dBFS
- Total Posts : 487
- Joined: 2014/09/26 11:23:12
- Status: offline
Re: Heavens Angel
2015/12/18 20:12:07
(permalink)
Nice song, Herb! Are you planning to post the Best Christmas?
|
bapu
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 86000
- Joined: 2006/11/25 21:23:28
- Location: Thousand Oaks, CA
- Status: offline
Re: Heavens Angel
2015/12/18 20:39:17
(permalink)
Nice one Herb. Bass needs more tonal definition IMO. Like Dan said the drums seem lost in the mix. Good song. I do like the accordion.
|
optimus
Max Output Level: -84 dBFS
- Total Posts : 316
- Joined: 2011/12/20 02:35:41
- Location: Whyalla, South Australia
- Status: offline
Re: Heavens Angel
2015/12/19 09:03:09
(permalink)
Herb, I like it. But, I keep hearing a walking bass line al la Mavericks. Just saying.
Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Roland Octacapture, Windows 7, i5 processor, 8 Gb RAM, X_Touch
|
Guitarhacker
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 24398
- Joined: 2007/12/07 12:51:18
- Location: NC
- Status: offline
Re: Heavens Angel
2015/12/19 09:14:02
(permalink)
Very good.... Thanks for the comments and crits. Seems I should probably have a look at the bass and low end kick and examine those issues in a bit more detail.
My website & music: www.herbhartley.com MC4/5/6/X1e.c, on a Custom DAW Focusrite Firewire Saffire Interface BMI/NSAI "Just as the blade chooses the warrior, so too, the song chooses the writer "
|
stevec
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 11546
- Joined: 2003/11/04 15:05:54
- Location: Parkesburg, PA
- Status: offline
Re: Heavens Angel
2015/12/22 15:12:44
(permalink)
Nice song! Overall it reminds me a bit of 70's era Eagles, well, except for the accordion. But that really works well. Mix-wise it's all been covered so nothing to add there.. the balance is good IMO.
SteveC https://soundcloud.com/steve-cocchi http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=39163 SONAR Platinum x64, Intel Q9300 (2.5Ghz), Asus P5N-D, Win7 x64 SP1, 8GB RAM, 1TB internal + ESATA + USB Backup HDDs, ATI Radeon HD5450 1GB RAM + dual ViewSonic VA2431wm Monitors; Focusrite 18i6 (ASIO); Komplete 9, Melodyne Studio 4, Ozone 7 Advanced, Rapture Pro, GPO5, Valhalla Plate, MJUC comp, MDynamic EQ, lots of other freebie VST plugins, synths and Kontakt libraries
|
Tap
Max Output Level: -30 dBFS
- Total Posts : 4536
- Joined: 2008/10/09 11:55:30
- Location: Newburyport, MA
- Status: offline
Re: Heavens Angel
2015/12/22 20:49:42
(permalink)
Great guitar playing (as always). Your vocals almost sound like Willie to me on this one. The accordion was the cherry on top of this tune .... Reminds me of the live version of Bad Weather by Poco. The Bass sounds fine, but I'm guitarist as well. A little more kick might be the ticket.
MC4 - M-Audio FW410 / Behringer UCA202 - Fender Strat / Jazzmaster / DuoSonic / Washburn / Peavy Foundation M-Audio Radium 49 Roland Juno 106 / JazzChorus / Seymore Duncan Convertible - HP A1230N ( AMD Athalon 3800+ 2G Ram + 200G HD ) http://soundclick.com/cut2thechaise
|
evadianepug
Max Output Level: -30.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 4477
- Joined: 2008/07/11 20:53:21
- Location: Phoenix, Arizona
- Status: offline
Re: Heavens Angel
2015/12/23 08:07:05
(permalink)
I am listening to Christmas tunes this morn and hit on this one. After all, Angels are a big part of Christmas. This is like a lot of your tunes, they just get in your head, like a lot of country/western music. We have had many discussions over the years about how you mix your tunes. They always sound professionally done but a bit "thin" to me. It's not a crit as much as an observation. The song and the production is beautiful and I could use a couple angels if you could send them this way. Maybe they could help with that song we are writing, FOR TWO OR THREE YEARS. It'll get there. This year I'm thinking! Merry Christmas, buddy.
|
Beagle
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 50621
- Joined: 2006/03/29 11:03:12
- Location: Fort Worth, TX
- Status: offline
Re: Heavens Angel
2015/12/24 14:59:44
(permalink)
excellent, Herb! the drums seem a little lacking in the low end. I hear the bass good and it sounds great, but I can't hardly hear a kick at all and all of the drums sound "high passed" I would prefer a little less verb on the vox, too. they sound like they have a lot more verb than everything else. good job!
post edited by Beagle - 2015/12/24 15:11:45
|
Rimshot
Max Output Level: -29 dBFS
- Total Posts : 4625
- Joined: 2010/12/09 12:51:08
- Location: California
- Status: offline
Re: Heavens Angel
2015/12/24 18:54:13
(permalink)
Really good song Herb. I like it the way it is. Bass is strong on my system. Yeah the kick could be up a hair but that doesn't really impact the overall quality of the song. Sometimes we get way too much in the technical instead of just experiencing the song. Heck, and other times we say everythings great when it's not! I always start with the song. If the song is good and something in the production detracts from it, then I like to comment. If the song is not good, then I don't think it matters too much. Just MO. Anyway, I like what you are doing and want to hear more. have a Merry Christmas!
Rimshot Sonar Platinum 64 (Lifer), Studio One V3.5, Notion 6, Steinberg UR44, Zoom R24, Purrrfect Audio Pro Studio DAW (Case: Silent Mid Tower, Power Supply: 600w quiet, Haswell CPU: i7 4790k @ 4.4GHz (8 threads), RAM: 16GB DDR3/1600 , OS drive: 1TB HD, Audio drive: 1TB HD), Windows 10 x64 Anniversary, Equator D5 monitors, Faderport, FP8, Akai MPK261
|
Guitarhacker
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 24398
- Joined: 2007/12/07 12:51:18
- Location: NC
- Status: offline
Re: Heavens Angel
2015/12/25 10:16:35
(permalink)
MERRY CHRISTMAS..... Thanks for the comments everyone.... glad you are enjoying the song.
My website & music: www.herbhartley.com MC4/5/6/X1e.c, on a Custom DAW Focusrite Firewire Saffire Interface BMI/NSAI "Just as the blade chooses the warrior, so too, the song chooses the writer "
|
Grizzlylip
Max Output Level: -89 dBFS
- Total Posts : 100
- Joined: 2015/05/13 14:25:00
- Status: offline
Re: Heavens Angel
2015/12/25 10:55:22
(permalink)
I would suggest that if you were to enhance the low end that it be a moderate adjustment. Not just because that's the popular advice to give, but because I think the stronger high end presence is what captures the mood of this genre. I can hear a lot of interesting high end dynamics that I would hate to hear masked by low end boost. Of course, this is all of my opinion (do I still have to give that disclaimer in every post or have we all acknowledged the subjectivity of music tastes?). Great work and great vocals! This is my first time hearing one of your tracks. I enjoyed it. Jake
Audio Interface: M-Audio Fast Track Ultra Computer: Dell XPS 8700 Windows 10 Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790 CPU @ 3.60GHz 3.60 GHz 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor Installed RAM: 8 GB Soundcard: ASIO Monitors: 3 M-Audio + Mackie MR8mk3 DAW: SONAR Platinum Hardware/Controller: Axiom 61 (2nd Gen) + Maschine Studio 2.0 Added Software: Komplete 10
|
emeraldsoul
Max Output Level: -56.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1858
- Joined: 2009/01/02 23:16:43
- Status: offline
Re: Heavens Angel
2015/12/25 17:11:53
(permalink)
Accordion to me, you did a pretty good job. Did you fix the bass guitar? Sounds fine by me, and as mentioned, bass isn't really featured in this type of music anyway. You just have to hear it a little through the jukebox speakers that you are crying on as you lean on it. :) I think the mix sounds pretty darn good! I'd bring the kick drum up as others have said, and less reverb on the vocals (but overly reverbed vocals are a staple of the genre here - I'm thinking late '70's c & w) The thing that started bugging me was the omnipresent and uni-volumed hi hats and cymbals, I think if they came down a bit, it would bring the vocal out front some. Those are all just niggles anyway, it sounds pretty together as it is. Good one! cheers, -Tom
|
thepogue
Max Output Level: -50.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 2458
- Joined: 2007/11/08 20:34:09
- Status: offline
Re: Heavens Angel
2015/12/26 19:01:50
(permalink)
Merry Christmas Herb! Yea I like this very much...love the feel..... great job!!
|
CreatingNoise
Max Output Level: -58.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1666
- Joined: 2006/05/08 13:40:28
- Location: , Location, Location
- Status: offline
Re: Heavens Angel
2015/12/27 09:29:58
(permalink)
Herb, solid tune here for sure. Glad this one made it to the finish line. I think you hit the mark, very interesting tune but not overly saturated with instrumentation. Very tasty, congrats on another gem! Mix sounds great on this end.
|
Guitarhacker
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 24398
- Joined: 2007/12/07 12:51:18
- Location: NC
- Status: offline
Re: Heavens Angel
2015/12/27 11:15:15
(permalink)
Again.... thanks, and no, I have not updated the mix.
My website & music: www.herbhartley.com MC4/5/6/X1e.c, on a Custom DAW Focusrite Firewire Saffire Interface BMI/NSAI "Just as the blade chooses the warrior, so too, the song chooses the writer "
|
ABull
Max Output Level: -67 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1161
- Joined: 2010/04/24 14:37:13
- Status: offline
Re: Heavens Angel
2015/12/28 18:12:26
(permalink)
Like a long-lost Eagles song -- very nice mix and the playing was top notch. Good one :) Allan
|
RussjWhite
Max Output Level: -80 dBFS
- Total Posts : 511
- Joined: 2012/12/23 16:33:01
- Status: offline
Re: Heavens Angel
2015/12/28 18:32:39
(permalink)
Really nice balance across the whole song. Has some very dreamy moments too. I'm siding with the other about the bass, but most importantly the kick drum. I can't tell if it's there or not, I think my brain is adding it to where I think it should be. Beautiful track though, just needs a few tweaks.
BL Cakewalk ATHM50 Cans VRM Box East West
|
Lynn
Max Output Level: -14 dBFS
- Total Posts : 6117
- Joined: 2003/11/12 18:36:16
- Location: Kansas City, MO
- Status: offline
Re: Heavens Angel
2016/01/01 15:40:17
(permalink)
Herb, I hear a lot of Neil Young in your voice which is the center of this song. I don't hear much low end, however, which makes your vocal seem a bit thin. The accordion is lovely, and the guitar parts are well written but could also be a bit louder. This song is so good that I know there's a stellar mix there waiting to happen. I look forward to hearing this again. Have a good year!
|
Guitarpima
Max Output Level: -34 dBFS
- Total Posts : 4125
- Joined: 2005/11/19 23:53:59
- Location: Terra 3
- Status: offline
Re: Heavens Angel
2016/01/02 01:04:37
(permalink)
This sounds great! I think "Guitarhacker" isn't a good name for you. Well done!!!
Notation, the original DAW. Everything else is just rote. We are who we are and no more than another. Humans, you people are crazy. Win 7 x64 X2 Intel DX58SO, Intel i7 920 2.66ghz 12gb DDR3 ASUS ATI EAH5750 650w PSU 4x WD HDs 320gb DVD, DVD RW Eleven Rack, KRK Rokit 8s and 10s sub
|
Guitarhacker
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 24398
- Joined: 2007/12/07 12:51:18
- Location: NC
- Status: offline
Re: Heavens Angel
2016/01/02 09:58:21
(permalink)
Well... perhaps I do need to have another go at the mix.... to tweek the issues mentioned. Bass up... kick more thump...
My website & music: www.herbhartley.com MC4/5/6/X1e.c, on a Custom DAW Focusrite Firewire Saffire Interface BMI/NSAI "Just as the blade chooses the warrior, so too, the song chooses the writer "
|
cclarry
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 20964
- Joined: 2012/02/07 09:42:07
- Status: offline
Re: Heavens Angel
2016/01/02 13:17:54
(permalink)
|
Guitarhacker
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 24398
- Joined: 2007/12/07 12:51:18
- Location: NC
- Status: offline
Re: Heavens Angel
2016/01/02 14:20:58
(permalink)
New mix is up. A few minor changes. Mostly I took the reverbs out of a few places that should allow more definition on the lower end. Slight boost to the kick and bass freqs... not much. Slight boost to the guitar level on solo. https://app.box.com/s/vw3...cnbf7i8x30a9bq3nxnlemz Let me know if that's better
My website & music: www.herbhartley.com MC4/5/6/X1e.c, on a Custom DAW Focusrite Firewire Saffire Interface BMI/NSAI "Just as the blade chooses the warrior, so too, the song chooses the writer "
|
mixmkr
Max Output Level: -43.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 3169
- Joined: 2007/03/05 22:23:43
- Status: offline
Re: Heavens Angel
2016/01/04 21:57:44
(permalink)
Bass may be a tad too loud now... and the snare too. Vocals are great and fit in the mix perfect. Accordian stays out of the way of the vocals nice (and out of the dumpster too!!)... oops...what happened at 1:28...like a weird tape splice?? Nice solo gtr. yeah bass is a tad loud. Ya know..an upright might fit in best, over the generic P bass sound you've got. Great singing... welp...need to head to the chuck wagon....get some grub...
|
Freddy J
Max Output Level: -52 dBFS
- Total Posts : 2348
- Joined: 2009/03/09 21:05:54
- Location: Lutz, FL
- Status: offline
Re: Heavens Angel
2016/01/04 22:20:08
(permalink)
Very nice indeed. It has a great pop-country to it. The accordian is a nice addition. You must have fixed the low end because it all sound good to me. Nice one.
|
markno999
Max Output Level: -62 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1450
- Joined: 2007/08/27 18:09:30
- Status: offline
Re: Heavens Angel
2016/01/04 22:57:00
(permalink)
Herb, Sounds really good. You have a hiccup @ 1:28, something must have popped into your rendering process. If anything at this point I might just pull back the bass guitar a hair, and push the kick a little bit. Like to hear a little more thump to carry the beat and pull the song along, but, much better mix for certain. Very good song.
Regards
|
Guitarhacker
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 24398
- Joined: 2007/12/07 12:51:18
- Location: NC
- Status: offline
Re: Heavens Angel
2016/01/05 08:00:27
(permalink)
I don't honestly know what happened there with the drums @ 1:28.
My website & music: www.herbhartley.com MC4/5/6/X1e.c, on a Custom DAW Focusrite Firewire Saffire Interface BMI/NSAI "Just as the blade chooses the warrior, so too, the song chooses the writer "
|