Easy creation of stems?

Hi everyone
 
I am wanting to easily create stems of my projects for export to another mix engineer.  I know you can create a .BUN file, but what if the person on the other end doesn't use Sonar?
 
Thanks,
Ken

Hi. When exporting audio, choose bus (maybe solo the bus) (make a new folder if needed) and export. Repeat with the rest of the buses.
You should now have stems of all your buses.
All the best.

You can create stems as .wav files.  Mix down the tracks to buses and export the buses out as .wav stems
 
Five is a good number to work with and a typical breakdown for would be something like:
 
 
Sub-mix 1: Drums
Sub-mix 2: Vocals
Sub-mix 3: Bass
Sub-mix 4: Lead guitars
Sub-mix 5: Everything else
 
Just think about what the key groups in your mix are and make these your stems.
 
 
 

ok...here is what I do and it has worked well for me over many years.  
 
Create a new Sonar file (Save As)  ex:  My Project_mx for stems
Create folders of the tracks that are stemmed together.
Individually Solo the folders and bounce to tracks
Make another new file  (Save As) ex:  My Project_stems
Delete all tracks except the newly created bounced  tracks
Go to  Process>Apply Effect>Remove Silence-- (be careful not to cut off any soft sounds)
Export an OMF that includes the following:
   embed audio
   Split Stereo tracks into dual mono
  
 
That OMF should import fine into Pro Tools with all your audio stems in the right place.  The remove silence will make your OMF file smaller, but is not a necessary step.
 

File - Export - Audio - 
In the bottom left of the screen there is a bounce settings/source category box.  The default is "entire mix".  However there is a drop down box there where you can select "tracks". from there you can select which tracks to export.  

kblackwell72
Hi everyone
 
I am wanting to easily create stems of my projects for export to another mix engineer.  I know you can create a .BUN file, but what if the person on the other end doesn't use Sonar?
 
Thanks,
Ken

Kblackwell,
 
We gave you what you asked for.  Not being smart or anything, however, if you re-read your post, what did you expect from the forum?  If you would of said individual files or or export tracks instead of stems, you would have received an appropriate answer.
 
just to let you know what a stem is.
 
Stem-mixing is a method of mixing audio material based on creating groups of audio tracks and processing them separately prior to combining them into a final master mix. Stems are also sometimes referred to as submixes, subgroups, or busses.
 
 

kblackwell72
OK, thanks, but everyone except for vanceen said the exact same thing.
 
I know how to make submixes, and how to export at the bus level.  It seems that based on the responses, everyone wants to just mix at the submix (aka bus) level.
 
My question, however, was more geared to whether there was an easy way to export every individual track in a mix as one process.  I do not want my mix engineer working at the bus level; rather the individual track level.
 
AKA... Is there a way to export all individual track wav files into one folder, with each wav file being each INDIVIDUAL track?  
 
If not, SONAR (Roland) should make this a functional, fundamental, user-level process.

We gave you an answer based on your question. You specifically use the term stems. It has a meaning. Stems are sub mixes. 

Well I guess its now well understood. LOL

Just a heads up, if you do simply export each .wav, (which is the best way to export raw tracks imo) select all your individual clips on each track if you have edited, drag the start of the first clip of each track to 0 and then bounce each track to one clip.  Then export each clip, one at a time to your preferred file type.

It is time consuming to do it this way and possibly something the bakers might look at creating a "batched" way to do in the future as cross-platform collaboration is a necessary evil these days.

Yes, I've been doing that myself to export full projects so I can test out Mixbus. Sonar makes it easy. 

Has anybody tried the free Native Instruments "stems" program?
 
I could never get it to work for me, and wind up using the methods posted in this thread

Slugbaby
Well here's a question:
Why would anyone want to mix stems instead of individual tracks?
I understand that in the old days it might have been necessary with limited hardware, but is there a reason to do it now?

Often its convenient to use stems. Suppose we're talking about 50 or 100 tracks do you really want to have to deal with all those tracks when a dozen or so stems will do much the same thing? I use buses to have like instruments together. Drums on one buss and guitars on another and so on. Once one has a balanced mix on the track level I do most of my mixing with the buses.   

Slugbaby
Well here's a question:
Why would anyone want to mix stems instead of individual tracks?
I understand that in the old days it might have been necessary with limited hardware, but is there a reason to do it now?

 
One reason is that some mastering engineers will accept stems as sort of a half-way measure between doing a full mix and just mastering a stereo mix. For example normally if you get a mix and the drums need work, there's not much you can do without affecting the other tracks. If you get stems, you can process the drums prior to mastering.
 
Personally I prefer not to master that way; if there's a problem with the mix, I make recommendations and ask the client to redo the mix.

Slugbaby
Those make sense, thanks for the clarification.  
I do most of my mixing with busses too (for demo purposes mostly).  
But when I hand everything to the studio/producer I'm paying to mix it, i'd rather work with the base tracks.  Otherwise i'm spending a lot of money while limiting his mixing abilities...

Stems to mastering engineer
Tracks to mixer engineer
 
simples.