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2015/12/25 19:29:30 (permalink)

Vocal Sync question.

I often work with vocal harmonies, and sometimes lots of them in 'A Capella' numbers. Vocal Sync has been a fantastic addition to my workflow, it can really tighten up a harmony, or vocal doubling line, and make the vocals sound very professional.
I do however have an issue with Vocal Sync crashing Sonar after using it three or four times in succession.
This is my workflow:
1. Create a region FX for the line I wish to alter. (usually just a two or four bar line)
2. Get the best sound I can
3. Render the finished product
4. Save the project and move on to the next section
After I've done this three or four times, Sonar will crash and I have to restart the application to continue working. I have saved so my work up to this point has not been in vain.
Soooo, does a part of Vocal Sync stay memory resident where the build up of successive usages cause a memory overload? Is there an issue with the amount of 'undo's' that is causing memory to run out? Or is there something else going on here that is causing this to happen?
I will say that Vocal Sync generally works great and I've not had the issues that some others on this forum seem to be having. If I just use one instance every now and then, I get no problems. It's just when I use it continually.
Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.

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    gswitz
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    Re: Vocal Sync question. 2015/12/25 19:50:28 (permalink)
    I'm getting sonar crashes too that don't go through the reporting stuff and don't leave mini dump files. Not just in your case, but including messing with vocal sync. Something is wrong. I'm not crashing constantly, but it bugs me and seems new within the last two releases if sonar platinum. Since TH3.
    post edited by gswitz - 2015/12/25 20:08:29

    StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
    I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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    Re: Vocal Sync question. 2015/12/25 20:05:56 (permalink)
    Hi Geoff. This issue has been with me since Vocal Sync was released. I'm still thinking it is probably related to the fact that I have a 32bit install, and limited memory from such. I also have an issue with Melodyne where I can't create a region FX longer than about 16 bars. I'm sure I'm just running out of memory.
    My problem seems to be that Vocal Sync is either not releasing memory after using it, or there is a build up form some application like an 'undo'.
    Sorry that you are finding other issues. I have TH3 installed and no problems so far.

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    Re: Vocal Sync question. 2015/12/25 22:23:43 (permalink)
    Do your crashes prompt you to report the info to Cakewalk? or do you not get that prompt?
     
    Just curious.

    StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
    I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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    Re: Vocal Sync question. 2015/12/25 23:41:45 (permalink)
    Just a suggestion from an producer here that does about 75% acapella music.  Melodyne is WAY better at aligning vocals.  It takes a little longer, but the results are virtually artifact free and YOU have control, not an algorithm.
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    Re: Vocal Sync question. 2015/12/26 00:06:20 (permalink)
    gswitz
    Do your crashes prompt you to report the info to Cakewalk? or do you not get that prompt?
     
    Just curious.


    I think this reporting thing must be windows related... I always got a short circuit in the reporting process after several good years on win7; there are lots of threads on this I've perused over the years... The problem reporter now works fine since upgrading to win10...
     
    Of course, I see ur on W10 so buggers...
     
    have you tried a Sonar reinstall?  I recently did this because of slow load times when things should be fast... took only about a half hour... all is fine now.

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    Re: Vocal Sync question. 2015/12/26 07:25:21 (permalink)
    Thanks Geoff. Mostly I get the error "Splat has stopped working and Windows is searching for an answer", but I have had the option, a few times now, to pass the crash onto Cakewalk and have opted to do so when prompted.
    I hope they find something that will help them make Sonar more stable.

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    Re: Vocal Sync question. 2015/12/26 07:51:09 (permalink)
    Hi Dana. I'm not sure I want to find the time to go through a complete reinstall process just to fix something I think is probably hardware related. Though I guess it's probably a bit easier now with the CCC and it's option to reinstall. Might give that a try if this issue becomes too much to bear.
     
    I guess I was hoping someone that has a 32bit install might be able to tell me whether they have an issue with Vocal Sync being used many times in a row and have it crash Sonar. Apart from this issue VS works great, and it does seem that if I do a few other tasks in between each use, there is less chance of it happening.
     
     Hi Rob, I have had issues with Vocal Sync, Melodyne, Addictive Keys, Perfect Space and other memory intense programs. Seems when I hit some sort of limit, I most always get a crash and have to use a FX or Synth that is less memory hungry. Melodyne will only let me load about 16 bars before it too stops Sonar from working.
     
    I guess part of the problem seems to be that when I hit the memory limit of this computer, neither Sonar, Windows, or the FX, or Synth in question, has the wherewithal to let me know before I hit it, so I can do something about it. If indeed that is the issue.
     
     

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