APDS
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SONAR 7 AND BFD CRASH
HAVING A REAL PROBLUM I HAVE WINDOWS 7 PROFESIONAL -64 BIT / SONAR 7 AND JUS UPGRADED TO BFD 3 - AND IT OPENS AND BFD3 RUNS FINE IN STAND ALONE - BUT AS A VST PLUG WHEN U OPEN THE SYNTH PLUG INSIDE SONAR7 IT IMEDIETLY- DISPLAYES A CRASH LOG AND SHUTS SONAR 7 DOWN ?................IV TROUBLE SHOT THIS THE BEST I KNOW AND AS A LAST DITCH EFFORT THOUGHT ID COME TO CAKE FORUM ....ANY INPUT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED -THANKS
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Re: SONAR 7 AND BFD CRASH
2015/12/30 21:40:27
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Hi APDS, welcome to Sonar Forum ! This issue will be hard to diagnose without some of your system specs. Hmmm, Sonar 7, hopefully you have lots of RAM ? You may have to run BFD3 in a lower detail setting to reduce the maximum number of velocity layers or run it in 16-bit mode which cuts in half the amount of RAM it uses.
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APDS
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Re: SONAR 7 AND BFD CRASH
2015/12/30 22:26:42
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THE SYS 64 BIT OPERATING SYSTEM IS AN INTEL I5-4590CPU @3;30GHZ - 4GIG OF RAM WINDOWS 7 PRO SERVICE PACK 1 THANKS FOR HELPING
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Re: SONAR 7 AND BFD CRASH
2015/12/30 22:32:36
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noynekker Hi APDS, welcome to Sonar Forum ! This issue will be hard to diagnose without some of your system specs. Hmmm, Sonar 7, hopefully you have lots of RAM ? You may have to run BFD3 in a lower detail setting to reduce the maximum number of velocity layers or run it in 16-bit mode which cuts in half the amount of RAM it uses.
THE SYS 64 BIT OPERATING SYSTEM IS AN INTEL I5-4590CPU @3;30GHZ - 4GIG OF RAM WINDOWS 7 PRO SERVICE PACK 1 THANKS FOR HELPING
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Re: SONAR 7 AND BFD CRASH
2015/12/30 23:02:00
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Hi again APDS, I worry about only 4GB RAM, since Windows OS alone uses a good chunk of it. Did you set a default Preset Drum kit to load when inserting BFD3 ? You may have to scale it down to suit your limited computer environment. Also, Sonar 7 goes back many years now, and unfortunately you may have to upgrade to a newer version to utilize BFD3 to it's full potential . . . that said, you still may be able to run it in some form of scaled down mode to get it working until upgrading. From the BFD3 manual . . . check out: global preferences for detail settings and also a detail setting per Drum class so you can specify a single layer, 25%, 50% or the full set of velocity layers for all kicks, snares, toms, cymbals, hihats and percussion. (This may make it more usable with less computer resources.) Let us know how it goes.
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Re: SONAR 7 AND BFD CRASH
2015/12/30 23:05:16
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noynekker Hi again APDS, I worry about only 4GB RAM, since Windows OS alone uses a good chunk of it. Did you set a default Preset Drum kit to load when inserting BFD3 ? You may have to scale it down to suit your limited computer environment. Also, Sonar 7 goes back many years now, and unfortunately you may have to upgrade to a newer version to utilize BFD3 to it's full potential . . . that said, you still may be able to run it in some form of scaled down mode to get it working until upgrading. From the BFD3 manual . . . check out: global preferences for detail settings and also a detail setting per Drum class so you can specify a single layer, 25%, 50% or the full set of velocity layers for all kicks, snares, toms, cymbals, hihats and percussion. (This may make it more usable with less computer resources.) Let us know how it goes.
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APDS
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Re: SONAR 7 AND BFD CRASH
2015/12/30 23:24:15
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noynekker Hi again APDS, I worry about only 4GB RAM, since Windows OS alone uses a good chunk of it. Did you set a default Preset Drum kit to load when inserting BFD3 ? You may have to scale it down to suit your limited computer environment. Also, Sonar 7 goes back many years now, and unfortunately you may have to upgrade to a newer version to utilize BFD3 to it's full potential . . . that said, you still may be able to run it in some form of scaled down mode to get it working until upgrading. From the BFD3 manual . . . check out: global preferences for detail settings and also a detail setting per Drum class so you can specify a single layer, 25%, 50% or the full set of velocity layers for all kicks, snares, toms, cymbals, hihats and percussion. (This may make it more usable with less computer resources.) Let us know how it goes. here was the app crash log - i just wonder if my sonar 7 is legit- i had 6 and bought it a time ago, then when i had a guy bre-build the machine he got a copy off the internet of 7 , it will not let me install the up dates ? Problem signature: Problem Event Name: APPCRASH Application Name: SONARPDR.exe Application Version: 16.0.0.163 Application Timestamp: 46dcbd44 Fault Module Name: BFD3.dll Fault Module Version: 3.1.2.0 Fault Module Timestamp: 5628b4d8 Exception Code: c0000005 Exception Offset: 01bb05e7 OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48 Locale ID: 1033 Additional Information 1: 0a9e
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Re: SONAR 7 AND BFD CRASH
2015/12/31 05:30:30
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He "got it from the internet" No surprise then that you're finding it impossible to upgrade, sounds like a cracked copy to me. Do you still have your Sonar 6 discs? The crash log means nothing to me, but I agree with noynekker in that your lack of RAM could well be causing issues. Is this a laptop or desktop?
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Re: SONAR 7 AND BFD CRASH
2015/12/31 06:17:42
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I have windows 7 pro 64 bit and have only 4G of RAM. I run BFD3 with full velocity layers in Sonar(platinum) just fine.
post edited by Leadfoot - 2015/12/31 06:30:17
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Re: SONAR 7 AND BFD CRASH
2015/12/31 07:40:52
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Where has the OP said he got Sonar 7 from the internet? That's great that you can run BFD3 in full detail leadfoot, slightly surprising but great ;-) To the OP, is sonar using your sound cards ASIO driver and what is your sound card? As Noynekker said, giving your full system specs is always a good idea, mine (like many others) are in my signature so people don't need to ask. Insufficient RAM is more likely to produce stuttering playback than crashes so I don't think it's a RAM issue. I have a windows 7 32bit machine with sonar 8.5 and BFD3 runs fine. You might try downloading the demo of sonar platinum to see if BFD3 runs better. Steve
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Re: SONAR 7 AND BFD CRASH
2015/12/31 11:17:37
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It would surprise me if AD3 won't run on 4GB, but it's entirely possible if running alongside other virtual instruments. When I was running with 4GB, I could easily hit the limit with some of the larger virtual instruments if I didn't freeze some of the other tracks. Only one library (OTS Rick) was actually flat-out too big, requiring more than 2 GB to load its default instrument. I had to create an alternate .nki with fewer round-robins in order to use the instrument. Maybe somebody who's running AD3 could load it up and check RAM usage? That would tell us whether or not we're barking up the wrong tree. I'm not an AD3 user myself, but I know Superior Drummer can get dangerously close to the 2 GB maximum with enough bleed samples loaded. Does AD3 have memory-tuning features like SD2 has?
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Re: SONAR 7 AND BFD CRASH
2015/12/31 11:34:03
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bitflipper It would surprise me if AD3 won't run on 4GB Hey Bit We're talking BFD3 here, NOT AD3 (or AD2 even) Steve
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Re: SONAR 7 AND BFD CRASH
2015/12/31 12:01:46
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I used to run BFD2 with 4Gb of RAM under XP32 (Sonar 6 - 8)
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Re: SONAR 7 AND BFD CRASH
2015/12/31 12:53:42
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twaddle Where has the OP said he got Sonar 7 from the internet?
He (or the forum) messed up the quotation tags... "here was the app crash log - i just wonder if my sonar 7 is legit- i had 6 and bought it a time ago, then when i had a guy bre-build the machine he got a copy off the internet of 7 , it will not let me install the up dates ?" So yeah... that would definitely be a problem. To the OP... you could still update the legit copy of Sonar 6 if you have the Serial Number/Registration info. The guy who installed that cracked copy of Sonar was not doing you any favors. He actually broke the law. Hopefully he didn't steal your registration of Sonar 6 for himself. For now, if you still have it, try using BFD3 in Sonar 6. Maybe BFD have put something in their code that prevents it from being loaded into pirated host programs.
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