Comping Multi-Tracks and Audio Drop-Outs

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2015/12/30 23:59:51 (permalink)

Comping Multi-Tracks and Audio Drop-Outs

Had to troubleshoot this for a bit to realize, but when Recording in Comping mode, if I'm recording multiple tracks (ex. 20 tracks), I cannot Comp record more than one take (Take Lanes) or I received Audio Drop-outs. For example, I cannot set up a project as a song, and have a band track multiple takes of that song in one project. After the first take, any subsequent takes will fail, due to Audio Dropouts, or a "disk full" error.
 
Now, my understanding of comping mode is that any previous takes are muted. However, I'm guessing the previous take lanes are still played to the I/O buffers, or somehow processed in Sonar, anyway.
 
Question 1: Is this a known limitation, and if so, without divulging too much information, is there a known plan to make this work better in the future with more tracks armed?

Question 2: Is this something that has a known workaround?
 
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    Razorwit
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    Re: Comping Multi-Tracks and Audio Drop-Outs 2015/12/31 02:16:19 (permalink)
    Hi Brian,
    FWIW, I noticed the same thing with comping large numbers of tracks, in my case it was drums. There are some work-arounds(ish) here: http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2823365, but I haven't really found a good way to get past this. While there is some help to be found in the thread I linked, I've found it to be a limitation in the software that I've just learned to live with.
    Alas, not much help, but at least you know you're not the only one...
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    Re: Comping Multi-Tracks and Audio Drop-Outs 2015/12/31 03:58:09 (permalink)
    You could try increasing your disk buffer and/or audio buffer?
    Is your disk very full or fragmented?
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    Re: Comping Multi-Tracks and Audio Drop-Outs 2016/01/01 11:12:46 (permalink)
    Sanderxpander
    You could try increasing your disk buffer and/or audio buffer?
    Is your disk very full or fragmented?



    I've considered SSD, even with the notion that some experts have noted with SSD performance when it is over a certain % utilized. Buffer sizes etc. have all been tested in our sessions. No fragmentation reported by Windows 8.1.

    Brian
     
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    Re: Comping Multi-Tracks and Audio Drop-Outs 2016/01/01 11:40:22 (permalink)
    For what it's worth, I've done comp recording with 12 to 14 tracks many times (mainly for drums). So it isn't a limitation in SONAR.

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    Re: Comping Multi-Tracks and Audio Drop-Outs 2016/01/01 14:07:28 (permalink)
    My current work-around is is save each take as a whole new project. Then delete the take and save as a new project, each time. I creates a lot of bundles, when backed up, but I don't experience audio dropouts.

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