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Waves H-Delay - No Stereo Delay
Hello All! Anyone out there using the Waves H-Delay. I can't get the stereo versions to actually output a stereo delay. I can get mono delays but the Ping Pong mode stays mono. I know there are three versions: mono/mono, mono/stereo and stereo/stereo. It also tends to switch the stereo interleave to mono on that channel. Is this a known problem or am I doing something wrong? I figured I'd ask you fine folks first before I reach out to Waves.
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Re: Waves H-Delay - No Stereo Delay
2016/01/06 11:44:53
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Are you using it with stereo tracks?
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Re: Waves H-Delay - No Stereo Delay
2016/01/06 12:13:19
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Are you using it with stereo tracks?
Nope, I have a mono guitar track so I'm using the Mono/Stereo delay instance.
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Re: Waves H-Delay - No Stereo Delay
2016/01/06 13:07:59
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Make sure your interleave is set to stereo.
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Re: Waves H-Delay - No Stereo Delay
2016/01/06 14:39:28
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Yeah, I checked the stereo interleave and it was.. 
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Re: Waves H-Delay - No Stereo Delay
2016/01/06 15:32:27
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Yeah, I checked the stereo interleave and it was..
Then it might be best to put the H-Delay on a Stereo Bus and send that channel to the bus...so that you get the full stereo effect...just a thought...
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Re: Waves H-Delay - No Stereo Delay
2016/01/06 15:59:29
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It also tends to switch the stereo interleave to mono on that channel. Is this a known problem or am I doing something wrong?
It switches the interleave to mono? Strange. Are you using VST 3? VST3 did have a problem with mono in previous Sonar versions but I thought that was fixed now. Try the VST 2 and see if that solves the stereo problem.
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Re: Waves H-Delay - No Stereo Delay
2016/01/06 18:43:10
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I've never seen a plugin switch the interleave. I'd think that was beyond the scope of what a plugin can do.
SONAR, however, will switch the interleave to mono if you import a mono track, as it should. But if you want to use a stereo effect on that track, you'll need to change it to stereo.
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Re: Waves H-Delay - No Stereo Delay
2016/01/06 20:05:23
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dlesaux
Yeah, I checked the stereo interleave and it was..
Then it might be best to put the H-Delay on a Stereo Bus and send that channel
to the bus...so that you get the full stereo effect...just a thought...
I did try inserting a stereo buss but it still stayed mono. I've since contacted Waves. Waiting to hear back.
post edited by dlesaux - 2016/01/06 20:18:46
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Re: Waves H-Delay - No Stereo Delay
2016/01/06 21:21:52
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☄ Helpfulby dlesaux 2016/01/07 08:23:47
I just tried it and what I found agrees with OP: 1. "H-Delay mono/stereo" always outputs a mono signal in Sonar whether it is inserted in a stereo channel or buss. 2. "H-delay stereo" works. I get good ping-pong on a mono track that has the interleave set to stereo. It is also working as expected, in stereo, on a buss. 3. "H-Delay mono" works properly, It's mono and the H-Delay meter shows a mono channel. Note: The above scenario was tried with both the vst2 64 bit version and the vst3 64 bit version with identical results for both. In conclusion: I agree that there is a bug with "H-Delay mono/stereo". Contact waves and notify them of bug. The work-around is to just use the "H-Delay stereo" version. It works and does the desired ping-pong effect.
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Re: Waves H-Delay - No Stereo Delay
2016/01/07 04:49:08
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I just tried it and what I found agrees with OP:
1. "H-Delay mono/stereo" always outputs a mono signal in Sonar whether it is inserted in a stereo channel or buss.
2. "H-delay stereo" works. I get good ping-pong on a mono track that has the interleave set to stereo.
It is also working as expected, in stereo, on a buss.
3. "H-Delay mono" works properly, It's mono and the H-Delay meter shows a mono channel.
Note: The above scenario was tried with both the vst2 64 bit version and the vst3 64 bit version with identical results for both.
In conclusion: I agree that there is a bug with "H-Delay mono/stereo". Contact waves and notify them of bug.
The work-around is to just use the "H-Delay stereo" version. It works and does the desired ping-pong effect.
Thanks for confirming mikedocy. I'll let Waves know there's a bug and will try the stereo/stereo version this morning.
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Re: Waves H-Delay - No Stereo Delay
2016/01/07 08:11:25
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Confirmed that the stereo / stereo instance works as expected. Thanks mikedocy! I've contacted Waves and told them there's a conformed bug when used in Sonar anyway. This is not a show stopper for me since the stereo / stereo instance works. Will let you know if Waves gets back to me. I must say that their customer service is excellent. They got back to me within a couple of hours and have been following up. 
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Re: Waves H-Delay - No Stereo Delay
2016/01/07 09:39:12
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I've had similar issues with Waves plugins (and others) though I do not have H Delay. I never thought of checking the stereo interleave so I'm going to do that tonight.
A work around I have come up with is two copy and paste the audio into two other tracks so you have three of the same track. Pan on left, one centre and one right. Load up the mono instance of the plugins on the L and R tracks and set to 100 per cent wet. Its probably not exactly the sort of sound you are looking for as it is not really 'true' stereo but it is a great way of faking a WDW rig for guitar and means you can very easily EQ the delay trails of either side etc.
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Re: Waves H-Delay - No Stereo Delay
2016/01/08 10:48:54
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In relation to my above post changing the interleave to stereo on a mono track fixed the issue for me with other plugins. Thanks all.
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