AnsweredTempo mapping a 3 8 or 6 8 tune that was recorded VIA Tape style in Splat

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2016/01/07 16:30:16 (permalink)

Tempo mapping a 3 8 or 6 8 tune that was recorded VIA Tape style in Splat

Hello All ,
 
I have a song that I'm working on that started it's life as a solo acoustic guitar performance .
The song I believe is in either a 3  8 or a 6 8  time signature . Up until this point in the song I have just rolled the tape in SONAR as my way of adding all my self played additional musical parts .
My original intention was not to use drums but as the song progressed it seems that drums may be indeed a welcome addition .
What I want to do is take a work file / mix of my song in progress , place it in SONAR as a new project and tempo match it so I can add drums ...
Is this easier said than done ? or should I just keep doing what I'm doing ?
 
edit here's the track in case anybody want to help me ...it is a rough work / mix 
https://soundcloud.com/guitarist-kenny-wilson/someday-i-will-love-again
 
thank you in advance
Kenny
post edited by kennywtelejazz - 2016/01/07 16:55:49

                   
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Re: Tempo mapping a 3 8 or 6 8 tune that was recorded VIA Tape style in Splat 2016/01/07 18:56:50 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby kennywtelejazz 2016/01/11 11:09:53
Hi Kenny. Like a lot of my stuff, that sounds like straight 4/4 tune with an internal triplet rhythm. I make it to be about 78BPM.
 
To set the project, start by playing it back, counting out 8 measures in your head and stopping the transport close to 9:01. Zoom in and set the Now time right on the downbeat for what should be 9:01. Then hit Shift+M to Set Measure/ Beat At Now, and give it Measure 9, Beat 1. SONAR will reset the initial tempo to align the timeline to that point.
 
Then you can go back and set additional beats as necessary to follow the measure-to-measure variations. Then do the same for the rest of the piece. Depending on how solid the tempo is, setting every 4 measures or so might be enough.
 
I didn't see an option to download the clip from SoundCloud, or I'd be happy to do it for you.
 
 
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Re: Tempo mapping a 3 8 or 6 8 tune that was recorded VIA Tape style in Splat 2016/01/07 20:58:40 (permalink)
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Hi Kenny. Like a lot of my stuff, that sounds like straight 4/4 tune with an internal triplet rhythm. I make it to be about 78BPM.
 
To set the project, start by playing it back, counting out 8 measures in your head and stopping the transport close to 9:01. Zoom in and set the Now time right on the downbeat for what should be 9:01. Then hit Shift+M to Set Measure/ Beat At Now, and give it Measure 9, Beat 1. SONAR will reset the initial tempo to align the timeline to that point.
 
Then you can go back and set additional beats as necessary to follow the measure-to-measure variations. Then do the same for the rest of the piece. Depending on how solid the tempo is, setting every 4 measures or so might be enough.
 
I didn't see an option to download the clip from SoundCloud, or I'd be happy to do it for you.
 
 




Hi David  ,
 
It has been a while since we talked ...it's great to see you
 
You bring up an interesting view point . Whenever I play this piece on my guitar I'm thinking in 3 .
It never occurred to me that it could be a slow 4 4 with a triplet feel ...
 
You have brought up some good techs on how to set the tempo .....
I need to give them a go once I recover from last nights Bass tracking session ..I'm sort of feeling a little crisp around the edges from hefting them big strings around
 
I made the song available as a download after reading your post .
The only difference between the song I have up and my SONAR project is I put about a second of space before the song starts on SoundCloud ...The SONAR Project starts on the first downbeat ....
 
I would be grateful to you David for any help you may consider offering me ...
That includes adding a part or multiple parts if you so desire .
 
all the best ,
 
Kenny
 

                   
Oh Yeah , Life is Good .
The internet is nothing more than a glorified real time cartoon we all star in.
I play a "Gibson " R 8 Les Paul Cherry Sunburst .
The Love of my Life is an American Bulldog Named Duke . I'm currently running Cakewalk By BandLab as my DAW .
 
https://soundcloud.com/guitarist-kenny-wilson
 
https://www.youtube.com/user/Kennywtelejazz/videos?view=0&sort=dd&shelf_id=1
 
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=427899



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