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User vs Programmer Annoyances
Is it just me or is it annoying that after opening a project Sonar does not then know where the projects folder is when using the File/Open or Import/Export menus.
This is something that if the programmer was a user I think this should have been a no brainer.
I can supply the code if needed........:-)
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Re: User vs Programmer Annoyances
January 10, 16 10:32 AM
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I don't recall having that problem. If I open a project and then either save it or open another it defaults to the last project folder used.
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Re: User vs Programmer Annoyances
January 10, 16 10:46 AM
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☄ Helpfulby meh January 11, 16 9:54 AM
Actually, all of CW's programmers are, in fact, users. As well as most of the non-programming staff. But even coder-users sometimes overlook details.
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Re: User vs Programmer Annoyances
January 10, 16 10:47 AM
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I'm not sure what the OP is talking about. I don't recall a project not knowing where its audio folder is as long as I have not moved it around. I have some very old projects. Projects that were done before per projects folders and rely on a global audio folder. Those projects need to be told where things are.
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Re: User vs Programmer Annoyances
January 10, 16 10:56 AM
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No problem here either. And I think the CW programmers reading this are probably shaking their heads at the presumptions of some users who can't be bothered to ask a simple question before ranting. Oh, to answer your original question.... It's just you.
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Re: User vs Programmer Annoyances
January 10, 16 11:24 AM
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I can definitely reproduce something the OP is complaining about, and his complaint makes sense to me.... I just opened a project. Then I selected the File > Export audio menu option. When the Export Audio dialog comes up, it's pointing to my Cakewalk Content\Audio folder, not the folder that contained the project file I just opened. IMO, and apparently the OP's, it would make more sense to use the project file's folder location as the default for the Export dialog (and other dialogs). Maybe there's a setting for this somewhere? Jim
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Re: User vs Programmer Annoyances
January 10, 16 11:32 AM
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Then I selected the File > Export audio menu option. When the Export Audio dialog comes up, it's pointing to my Cakewalk Content\Audio folder, not the folder that contained the project file I just opened.
Me too ! Same for audio import. I never go into this folder and have to continually dig myself out of it.
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Re: User vs Programmer Annoyances
January 10, 16 11:42 AM
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Re: User vs Programmer Annoyances
January 10, 16 12:00 AM
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I just tried it. I opened a project, within a given folder Cakewalk Projects folder. I tried a "Save As" and the projects folder that I had opened the file from came up as the folder to save. I then did an File/Open and it went to the same projects folder.
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Re: User vs Programmer Annoyances
January 10, 16 12:02 AM
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Export and Import use the path in the "Wave Files" entry in Preferences > File > Folder Locations
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Re: User vs Programmer Annoyances
January 10, 16 12:16 AM
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Export and Import use the path in the "Wave Files" entry in Preferences > File > Folder Locations
That's fine, but not useful when you work in different places and import and export stuff from all over (but usually close by to where you're currently working or where you accessed last time). I wouldn't know what to set the preference to. What's needed is the option "last location used", and two entries for import and export.
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Re: User vs Programmer Annoyances
January 10, 16 12:21 AM
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Sounds like a feature request. It might be easier to use the media browser and setup a few preset locations in it.
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Re: User vs Programmer Annoyances
January 10, 16 12:45 AM
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☄ Helpfulby tlw January 10, 16 3:38 PM
I kinda prefer it as is. I bounce out tracks to a predictable folder. I don't keep my exports mixed with the project files.
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Re: User vs Programmer Annoyances
January 10, 16 12:56 AM
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I kinda prefer it as is. I bounce out tracks to a predictable folder. I don't keep my exports mixed with the project files.
Me either.
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Re: User vs Programmer Annoyances
January 10, 16 1:32 PM
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I don't keep my exports mixed with the project files.
... and you wouldn't want to because Clean Audio and CWAF Tool will whack files that aren't referenced by tracks in the project. If you want an exported file to be in the project folder, you can just bounce to tracks, and Archive/Mute the track if you don't want the exported file to playback. This is how I create masters for export. I then export that 'Master Bounce' track to the global path specified in Preferences (not the default 'Audio Library' path in my case) when I'm satisfied with the final mix. For import, I usually drag 'n' drop from the source folder, so I don't much care what folder File > Import defaults to. File > Open will default to the current project path if it was opened from the File menu, but not if it was opened as an existing project from Start Screen or by dragging and dropping from the file system, and hasn't yet been re-saved.
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Re: User vs Programmer Annoyances
January 10, 16 2:06 PM
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It might be easier to use the media browser and setup a few preset locations in it. I use the media browser a lot for transferring files from one place to another.
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Re: User vs Programmer Annoyances
January 10, 16 2:14 PM
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gswitz
I kinda prefer it as is. I bounce out tracks to a predictable folder. I don't keep my exports mixed with the project files.
Likewise. I have separate folders for all my Exports which all default to my "J" drive, as specified in Folder Locations
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Re: User vs Programmer Annoyances
January 10, 16 2:48 PM
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☄ Helpfulby meh January 11, 16 9:47 AM
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What's needed is the option "last location used", and two entries for import and export.
I have requested this since Sonar 7. My suggestion is to make the path variable static, so that it opens first time in you declared path, but if you navigate to another path, it remembers it for the rest of the session. A simple change that will not interfere with the standard way of working and save so much clicking around. bitflipper
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I have spent my entire vacation running into and chasing down bugs. And this is not the first time. My lasting impression has been of programmers under pressure to fulfill stated requirements but with no idea how a feature will be used in practice. Certainly the programmers cannot have used what they programmed because they would have found the bugs immediately, instead of us users.
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Re: User vs Programmer Annoyances
January 10, 16 3:02 PM
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dang..and I forgot where I set the razor blade to do a splice...or somebody took it! darn crack heads...
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Re: User vs Programmer Annoyances
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Re: User vs Programmer Annoyances
January 10, 16 6:59 PM
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Re: User vs Programmer Annoyances
January 10, 16 9:45 PM
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JonD
I'm away from my DAW right now, but start here and verify your file locations:
https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR&language=3&help=Dialogs2.062.html
There's some helpful info below the screenshot too -- in particular, regarding the Global Audio folder.
Actually I can't start there--page unresponive. I expect that is because it is a secure page (https://) and probably is a link from your account/installation to online help. If you want to reference help/documentation for the rest of us you probably need to do so via: http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR&language=3
Not my account - just a copy-paste from a google search result. I even logged out of my CW account, and can still access the link, so don't know what's preventing the connection on your system. BobF said he can access it, so who knows...?
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Re: User vs Programmer Annoyances
January 11, 16 3:12 PM
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gswitz
I kinda prefer it as is. I bounce out tracks to a predictable folder. I don't keep my exports mixed with the project files.
Likewise.
I have separate folders for all my Exports which all default to my "J" drive, as specified in Folder Locations
I keep my exports separate to.
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