pmhall
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Licensing limits
I'm looking at buying Sonar Pro or Plat as my first DAW and can't find anywhere a description of the license limits. Specifically, if I buy Sonar Pro, am I limited to running it on a single computer? I'd like to be able to use it at home on my decked out deskside PC, but when I travel I'd like to be have it on my laptop even though it has much less memory, slower processors, less disk, etc. I'm not sure what is the norm in DAW software, but in some other types of commercial software, the licensing is flexible enough to accommodate that sort of situation. The answer to this question will be a factor in my buying decision IF other brands prove to be more flexible. All else being equal, I'm currently focusing on Sonar as my top choice.
I'm most definitely NOT a professional musician and my usage of this software would be exclusively for home recording (pleasure). I'd welcome any comments related to this or other licensing issues in general. Thanks much!
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jih64 
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Re: Licensing limits
2016/01/24 10:36:45
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You can install/run it on 2 computers, but not simultaneously.
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Re: Licensing limits
2016/01/24 10:58:22
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You most certainly can run it on 2 computers. Jump right in and buy it)
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Re: Licensing limits
2016/01/24 11:13:41
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As long as you're the only one using the software, there's nothing to worry about (Install it on whatever you want).
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Re: Licensing limits
2016/01/24 11:26:35
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pmhall
I'm looking at buying Sonar Pro or Plat as my first DAW and can't find anywhere a description of the license limits. Specifically, if I buy Sonar Pro, am I limited to running it on a single computer? I'd like to be able to use it at home on my decked out deskside PC, but when I travel I'd like to be have it on my laptop even though it has much less memory, slower processors, less disk, etc. I'm not sure what is the norm in DAW software, but in some other types of commercial software, the licensing is flexible enough to accommodate that sort of situation. The answer to this question will be a factor in my buying decision IF other brands prove to be more flexible. All else being equal, I'm currently focusing on Sonar as my top choice.
I'm most definitely NOT a professional musician and my usage of this software would be exclusively for home recording (pleasure). I'd welcome any comments related to this or other licensing issues in general. Thanks much!
From https://www.cakewalk.com/Register/FAQ - Does this limit the number of times I can install my Cakewalk product?You can uninstall and re-install the software on your computer without having to worry about re-registering or being locked out of the software. Per the End User License Agreement, your purchase of the software grants you the nonexclusive license to have one person use the software on one personal computer at a time. If you want to use the product on more than one personal computer at a time, or if you want to network the product, you must obtain separate licenses from Cakewalk. If you have a second computer that you use on occasion, such as a personal laptop you use when away from your desktop, you may install the product on to the additional computer. You do not need to register the product again, simply use the same registration code tied to your account that has been generated for your unique serial number. Note that per the EULA, the software must only be running on one computer at a time unless you have purchased an additional license.
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Re: Licensing limits
2016/01/24 13:08:42
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I have Sonar installed on 3 machines.
This is a non-issue - Cakewalk have one of, if not THE most transparent, flexible licensing systems around.
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Re: Licensing limits
2016/01/24 13:49:22
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The one caveat is that, unlike some other software, you cannot sell, give away or otherwise transfer the license to anyone else. So if you plan to leave it to someone in your will, or hand it off to your cousin if you switch to another DAW, you are out of luck.
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pmhall
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Re: Licensing limits
2016/01/24 14:03:10
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Thanks for all the replies! Those answer my question perfectly and much to my satisfaction. I'll be buying Sonar this week (still comparing versions to get the right fit) and look forward to joining these forum conversations regularly. The product looks GREAT and, as such, I'll have many questions getting started.
Thanks again to all who replied,
Phil
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Re: Licensing limits
2016/01/24 14:09:06
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While EULA is strict, as correctly pointing you are allowed to installed Sonar on Desktop and Laptop simultaneously. The reality is more relaxing. While there is online registration, there was no reports it stops working after some number of installation. Cakewalk has confirmed several times in this forum that in case you use Sonar for yourself, you should not worry about installations.
Note that some software bundled has different rules. Both AD2 and Melodyne allow 2 simultaneous activations. Melodyne support temporarily "deactivation" and "reactivation", so you can officially use one copy temporarily on yet another computer. AD2 support permanent deactivation only, but you can reactivate computer you have deactivated before (unlike for example Pianoteq).
When I thought to test LE versions of some other DAWs which I got free with hardware, I have found more restrictive practice. Like contacting support in case you upgrade your PC. From my knowledge, the only other DAW with installations freedom is Reaper (and they write that officially, unlike Sonar).
Full versions of bundled with Sonar plug-ins have different rules. GS-2 allows 2 activations every 3 month without contacting support, TruePianos have no limits for personal use. I do not know about other.
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Re: Licensing limits
2016/01/24 14:25:51
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Welcome, Phil,
These CW forums are a GREAT resource unlike anything I've seen from other vendors. Cakewalk can't really use them as a marketing feature of the product because they don't control them, but IMHO they are one of the most effective ways to get up to speed!
In truth, the forums are so good that I come to them third when trying to get a problem solved or a feature mastered. Here's my pecking order.
1. Make an effort to use the SONAR documentation and help files. For some reason they aren't as intuitive as others, but they are deep and probably do contain the answers you'll need. By the way, it looks like the UI improvements coming this Spring, there will be a lot of new user support onscreen.
2. Consider a resource like Groove3.com for video explanations and tutorials. You'll find that you need to spend time with older versions of SONAR to get the whole picture, but don't be put off by that. Many practices haven't changed despite improvements under the hood and in the GUI.
3. When you do access the forums, don't overlook the legacy information. You can search using the site search function of most search engines like this site:forum.cakewalk.com (search_string) By the time you've reviewed the existing content, your posting to the 'live' forums will be better focused and more useful--no need to reinvent the wheel if the question might have already been answered.
On a side note, I personally endorse the full version of SONAR Platinum. You may not have any specific applications in mind for some of the premium features, but as you get more familiar with the tool, your enthusiasm for them is very likely to grow. I know money is always an issue, so either way you'll enjoy working with SONAR.
Again, welcome to the wild and woolly world of SONAR.
Rick
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pmhall
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Re: Licensing limits
2016/01/24 22:25:41
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Thanks Rick, it's good to have that sort of insight when starting something new and complex. I've had similar good access to real down-to-earth help from jvmforum.com which is dedicated to the JVM series of Marshall guitar amplifiers. I'm looking to Sonar so as to finally have the ability to make respectable compositions that include my guitar playing.
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ricoskyl
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Re: Licensing limits
2016/01/24 22:50:44
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You'll find lots of guitar players lurking around these parts.
If you want to make enemies, try to change something. -Woodrow T. WilsonTurbulence is a life force. It is opportunity. Let’s love turbulence and use it for change. -Ramsay Clark ----------------------Sonar Platinum Win 10 x64 on HP Pavilion i7 5500 12Gb RAM, Tascam US-16x08, NVidia 840 8Gb vram, Multi-Screen, Multi-Touch
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Re: Licensing limits
2016/01/25 19:50:13
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Guitar player right here!
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pmhall
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Re: Licensing limits
2016/01/31 15:13:19
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Just finished purchasing Sonar Platinum on the monthly plan! (also go the Z3TA and Rapture Pro packages and the SWA tutorials). One other question concerning licensing:
The monthly purchase plan makes mention of billing being based on number of enabled users for each billing cycle (1 month). What are they getting at? No reference to enabled users if purchased in full outright. l just want to be sure that I don't violate license terms or get charged extra when I travel and use my laptop instead of my deskside as when at home. Is Cakewalk going to issue a new license activation each month? Or what?
Thanks much for all the input to my previous posts.
Phil
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Re: Licensing limits
2016/01/31 15:22:03
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You will not be charged extra for installing SONAR on your laptop and your desktop. The same license may be used for both installations regardless of the method of payment.
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