How to run Sonar exclusively?

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2016/01/26 13:03:01 (permalink)

How to run Sonar exclusively?

I'll post this on the "computers" site also, but wanted to see if anyone can chime in here too.......
 
I've got a brand new computer with Windows 10, i7, 12GB RAM. Running the new Manchester SPLAT. I've noticed upon running Task Manager, there's all sorts of things running in the background, along with Sonar. I've disabled wifi and McAfee, but I still see lots of stuff running in the background.
 
Is there a quick way to tell my computer that the only thing I want running is Sonar (and of course the Windows elements needed to run the computer)?
 
And what would be really cool is to have two different setups in Windows: 1) A setup that runs Sonar only; and 2) A setup that will run my other stuff when I want to use my computer as a computer, not for music production.
 
Thanks so much.
 
~Jeff
 
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    Kalle Rantaaho
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    Re: How to run Sonar exclusively? 2016/01/26 13:16:08 (permalink)
    Someone who actually knows, will chime in, for sure. But I think know enough to say that it's not possible.
    Windows alone requires a bunch of processes in order to run, so does your audio interface. My guess is that there must in any scenario run at least 20-30 processes simultaneously with SONAR in order to make the computer tick.

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    Re: How to run Sonar exclusively? 2016/01/26 13:41:36 (permalink)
    Kalle is correct.
    Windows is composed of many processes, some of which are absolutely necessary and some of which can be disabled. Figuring out which are unnecessary can be complicated and depends on your needs (ie network). 
    You can eliminate applications other than Sonar, but the running services are what makes Windows tick. 
    I suggest you Google "optimizing WIndows for audio" or maybe visit Blackviper.com to get some idea of where to start.
    Latency Monitor can give you an idea of which programs/services are eating your resources.
    Unfortunately ,there is no simple answer.

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    Re: How to run Sonar exclusively? 2016/01/26 13:46:38 (permalink)
    If you bought an off the shelf PC (HP, DELL,etc) it is probably full of manufacturer installed crapware. THere are some utilities that can get rid of these types of programs.
    PC decrapifier is one. Google "remove crapware".
     

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    Re: How to run Sonar exclusively? 2016/01/26 13:51:14 (permalink)
    If you are not having problems then the adage "if it ain't broke, don't fix it," applies. Much damage can be done to an installation by trying to improve performance, and remarkably little actual improvement is accomplished in most cases. If you want to take the time and effort to understand what you are doing this is a start:
    http://www.blackviper.com/
     
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    Re: How to run Sonar exclusively? 2016/01/26 14:21:44 (permalink)
    Jeffiphone
    I'll post this on the "computers" site also, but wanted to see if anyone can chime in here too.......
     
    I've got a brand new computer with Windows 10, i7, 12GB RAM. Running the new Manchester SPLAT. I've noticed upon running Task Manager, there's all sorts of things running in the background, along with Sonar. I've disabled wifi and McAfee, but I still see lots of stuff running in the background.
     
    Is there a quick way to tell my computer that the only thing I want running is Sonar (and of course the Windows elements needed to run the computer)?
     
    And what would be really cool is to have two different setups in Windows: 1) A setup that runs Sonar only; and 2) A setup that will run my other stuff when I want to use my computer as a computer, not for music production.
     
    Thanks so much.
     
    ~Jeff
     


    The guys are right, unless these other, probably necessary programs/services are impacting negatively on the performance of your DAW, I'd leave well alone, unless as has been pointed out, it's an off the shelf computer loaded with bloatware.
     
    The best way to achieve 2) is to set up a dual boot system, but if you don't know what you're doing, it can be a nightmare to get set up properly.
    A cheap solution would be to dedicate your machine SOLELY to Sonar and buy another off the shelf piece of crap for browsing, email, games, office etc
     

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    Re: How to run Sonar exclusively? 2016/01/27 02:27:22 (permalink)
    Or just simply use a seperate login.

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    Re: How to run Sonar exclusively? 2016/01/27 04:10:33 (permalink)
    Actually using a separate login doesn't protect the user from any nasties he might pick up form t'interweb.
     
    Dual boot does

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    Re: How to run Sonar exclusively? 2016/01/27 09:14:49 (permalink)
    A lot of those Windows optimizations are really from back in the XP days, and many of those are no longer needed or applicable.
     
    Windows itself doesn't natively have the ability to switch configurations for one set of background services or started tasks and another.
     
    What I did for myself a few years back is to create a little C# program, that allows me to present a list of all background services and started tasks, from which I can create one or more 'Service Profiles' that contain a list of those items that I wish to disable or stop from starting.  I can then process any one of the profiles, and the program marches down the list of items in the profile, and changes their start type or disables them.  A reboot then starts me back up in a configuration that is optimized for my running Sonar.  After finishing my Sonar session, I reload the little program, load up the same profile, and click on a single button to restore all items in that profile to their saved state from prior to when I disabled them.  Then, I reboot and all is back to exactly where it was for my general computing configuration.
     
    So, all the program does is manage the creation of profiles, then a given profile can be processed to either disable items, or processed to enable items.  It is quite a simple program, but saves TONS of time for someone who wants to be able to run with multiple service and start items configurations.
     
    I can send the programs to anyone who wishes to have them.  There are 2 such programs: Service_Manager and Start_Item_Manager.
     
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    Re: How to run Sonar exclusively? 2016/01/27 09:15:47 (permalink)
    Jeff, are these background processes causing any problems?  If not don't worry about it.
     
    Ps - turning off the WiFi and antivirus is a good thing to do.
     
     

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    Re: How to run Sonar exclusively? 2016/01/27 10:01:34 (permalink)
    On the antivirus - some folks (I do this) add the Sonar and plugin paths to the Exclusion list in the antivirus software, and that way it won't keep trying to scan all the sample files and helps performance.  That way, you don't run a risk of forgetting to turn it back on.
     
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    Re: How to run Sonar exclusively? 2016/01/27 11:38:24 (permalink)
    Here's a few things I do to keep my machine as much a dedicated sonar box while also using it for other stuff.
     
    First, I use portableapps.com
     
    Portable apps are apps that do not install on your computer, don't add or make any changes to the registry, and when you shut them down don't leave anything running. Just go to portableapps.com and you'll find many of them to choose from. You can also, if so desired, install all of them to a USB key and they will work across multiple computer and be totally removed from any computer when you remove the key.
     
    Second, the only thing I install on my computer other than sonar and associated things (audio drivers, other plugins, etc.) is virtualbox. 
     
    Virtualbox is also free and can be found at virtualbox.org. Virtualbox allows you to install a virtual machine on top of your existing machine. I build a virtual machine and run everything that I need to on that virtual machine. It actually winds up being what I use about 75% of the time, pretty much any time I'm NOT doing music. I just leave the virtual machine running and install everything I need/want in there. 
     
    When you shut down your virtual machine, the base machine doesn't have anything installed on it (except virtualbox) and sonar/related.
     
    You can also go here http://www.blackviper.com/ and find services you can disable. I use to do that, but don't bother any more as things seem to run pretty good for me these days.
     
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