Muziekschuur at home
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Second harddrive..... SSD too?
Just in the process of migrating my studio machine to WIN10 32bit. On a SSD. Is there any benefit to get a second SSD for recording to?
Or should that only be a samples disk?
I've read that a HDD (harddisk) is a better medium to record to. But that was like 4 years ago. Things change.... Looking for your wisdom.
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robert_e_bone
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Re: Second harddrive..... SSD too?
2016/01/27 08:16:52
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Some folks load up on SSD's, and others don't. I happen to have a primary (C:) drive that is an SSD, but all other drives are 7,200 SATA III hard drives, and I have no issues doing that.
I can pick up a 2 TB drive with 2 year warranty for about $50 these days, so I take advantage of those being cheaper for large storage than an equivalent cost for storage if I had used additional SSD's.
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Re: Second harddrive..... SSD too?
2016/01/27 08:43:40
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I have a dedicated sample drive (SATA 600) on my fast desktop (core i7 4.3 GHz overclocked). It takes about 30 seconds to load the Soniccouture Array MBira preset into Kontakt 5. It is about 4 GB in size. The drive is defragmented.
On my laptop (Core i5 - 1.8 GHz) I have a 1 TB SSD. Running on laptop battery power that same preset loads in 3 seconds.
When I run one of the monthly updates to Sonar, the laptop installs the updates much, much faster.
I heartily recommend an SSD.
Just think for a minute - no matter how fast your system, a hard drive is spending a lot of time moving that read head around. No data is read or written during that time, which is an eternity to a CPU.
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Muziekschuur at home
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Re: Second harddrive..... SSD too?
2016/01/28 13:46:34
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My daw now has a 240GB SSD. But for recording I use a second device. Since I mostly use between 4 to 32 tracks the most data I write at once won't exceed 40MB/S. So a harddrive should be more than capable. Ah well. I'll buy a second SSD and test. Why not.
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Re: Second harddrive..... SSD too?
2016/01/28 21:15:00
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I've got a system SSD for my OS/Studio Applications and two SSDs for my resource heavy sample libraries. Everything else is on HDD including save files.
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Re: Second harddrive..... SSD too?
2016/01/28 22:18:02
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My reasons for using a regular HDD, rather than an SSD, for sample libraries is purely one of cost per GB of storage, since I have about a terabyte of sample libraries at the moment, and will shortly be adding another 500-750 GB of samples, I get a cheaper means of housing all of that with a 2 TB drive, or even a pair of them, for WAY less cost than moving all of that to SSD's.
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Re: Second harddrive..... SSD too?
2016/01/29 07:32:02
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Muziekschuur at home
Just in the process of migrating my studio machine to WIN10 32bit.
Wondering why you went with 32 bit. You are limited to 4GB RAM using 32 bit.
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Re: Second harddrive..... SSD too?
2016/02/03 10:39:04
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I did so since I use a DIGI9652 and a Tascam DM24. In house I have another rack pc with a AMD six core wich runs 64 bit. And that system will soon be upgraded to 16GB ram. But since I play all electric instruments. And I rather use Memorymoon than a samplebased instrument I never really hit the ceiling. This core2quad is really a great puter and the SSD makes it snappy. Enough for what I use it for.
With the next upgrade to a HDSP9652 I will migrate to WIN10-64bit. So I use two laptops and two rack computers. ANd each has its own use.
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Re: Second harddrive..... SSD too?
2016/02/03 20:53:01
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Until recently I had my multisamples stored on a pair of WD Raptors in a RAID-0 configuration. One day it failed so I've now replaced it with a single SSD, a Kingston Fury. The single SSD is noticeably faster than the Raptor pair.
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Re: Second harddrive..... SSD too?
2016/02/03 21:35:21
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This is how I run my system: an SSD is great for recording, for one there is less risk of a catastrophic failure. I only have a 128 gig SSD via a USB 3 port, and the port actually powers the drive...it is the bomb. I use normal drives in docks which means they can turned off for storage. This works because you don't run the spindle all the time, which wears them out. Running samples off a secondary drive isn't needed any more...not with 16 gig of ram...all samples are loaded into ram-well most are, maybe not some of the huge orchestral samplers.
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Muziekschuur at home
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Re: Second harddrive..... SSD too?
2016/02/12 02:56:40
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It's refreshing hearing everybodies take on it. Especially the usb3 part with the powerswitch. Me like. Tho the puter does not have usb3. It does have Esata. Maybe I can make use of that somehow. I came across this external enclosure. Wich seems suitable for me: 
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Re: Second harddrive..... SSD too?
2016/02/12 11:45:00
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One advantage of using SSDs where the budget allows besides their speed is that 7200rpm HDDs are noisy and SSDs are silent. They also draw quite a bit less power and there's no need to worry about keeping them cool, which can mean fewer or slower fans, whoch again means less noise.
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Muziekschuur at home
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Re: Second harddrive..... SSD too?
2016/02/21 05:19:30
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The ssd thing still needs some testing in my end.
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