Please Allow Turning Take Lanes Off When There is Only One Lane or Track !!!

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Please Allow Turning Take Lanes Off When There is Only One Lane or Track !!!

Why would I not be able to restore the track as a single track, without the glowing blue take lanes icon? That icon should indicate if I'm using multiple take lanes for a track. If I'm returning to a single track... I really don't want that glowing blue take lane icon to remain, as it makes me think I have a track using multiple take lanes, when I actually do not.
 
Seems a better idea to only have the take lane icon glowing blue on tracks that actually still have multiple take lanes. Not on tracks where multiple clips are on a single track or take lane, or on tracks that are really only a single file, even.
 
Doesn't make sense to me that even just accidentally clicking the take lane icon means that you forever see the take lane icon as active.

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    Re: Please Allow Turning Take Lanes Off When There is Only One Lane or Track !!! 2016/01/25 12:19:56 (permalink)
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    Re: Please Allow Turning Take Lanes Off When There is Only One Lane or Track !!! 2016/01/25 12:41:47 (permalink)
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    Yep. This way, the Expand Lanes button status (white vs. blue) can actually mean something.
     
    I will add: Perhaps a default different shade of background color for the Lanes vs. Track. Many times I find myself attempting to edit the track vs. the Lane.

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    Re: Please Allow Turning Take Lanes Off When There is Only One Lane or Track !!! 2016/02/03 03:42:04 (permalink)
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    I just want to disable "Take Lanes" COMPLETELY!!!!  

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    Re: Please Allow Turning Take Lanes Off When There is Only One Lane or Track !!! 2016/02/05 07:51:30 (permalink)
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    When I voted for this request as soon as it appeared, I thought it would only receive a couple of votes before disappearing from the first page.
    But.......  9 votes in 3 weeks!!
     
    I'm glad to know that people still have hope for Take lane improvements. 

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    Re: Please Allow Turning Take Lanes Off When There is Only One Lane or Track !!! 2016/02/05 08:22:52 (permalink)
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    I just want to disable "Take Lanes" COMPLETELY!!!!  


    Why?  If you don't want to use them, don't use them.

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    Re: Please Allow Turning Take Lanes Off When There is Only One Lane or Track !!! 2016/02/05 09:00:37 (permalink)
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    I just want to disable "Take Lanes" COMPLETELY!!!!  


    Why?  If you don't want to use them, don't use them.


     
    Under certain conditions, two or more lanes are automatically created without the user's knowledge.

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    Re: Please Allow Turning Take Lanes Off When There is Only One Lane or Track !!! 2016/02/05 10:19:15 (permalink)
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    I was not aware of that, what conditions?

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    Re: Please Allow Turning Take Lanes Off When There is Only One Lane or Track !!! 2016/02/05 19:32:00 (permalink)
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    I was not aware of that, what conditions?

     
    For example, even with the "Create New Lanes on Overlap" option disabled and the recording mode set to Overwrite or Sound On Sound, recording new MIDI data onto an existing MIDI clip creates an additional lane. Also, although this was fixed recently (a couple of years after I reported it), simply dragging a MIDI file into a MIDI track would add another lane in the background.
     
    It is possible to work in just one lane (expanded) and avoid creating another lane, but this is different from working in the track with no lanes at all. Displaying the lane and working in it has a few disadvantages compared to working in the track with no lanes. For example, the "Fit MIDI Content" command doesn't work in lanes. Also, a lane has a vertical size limit, and cannot be as slim as a minimized track as well.

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    Re: Please Allow Turning Take Lanes Off When There is Only One Lane or Track !!! 2016/02/05 20:32:29 (permalink)
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    Good suggestion!  Perhaps the toggle should be on the track and not a universal preference.  Maybe an overall preference would be default off on the toggle, and then you could toggle it on when it applies to your specific track or tracks.

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    Re: Please Allow Turning Take Lanes Off When There is Only One Lane or Track !!! 2016/02/05 21:06:13 (permalink)
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    Just for clarity...  how would the "no lane" option differ from simply never clicking on the Track Lane button?

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    Re: Please Allow Turning Take Lanes Off When There is Only One Lane or Track !!! 2016/02/05 23:04:48 (permalink)
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    Just for clarity...  how would the "no lane" option differ from simply never clicking on the Track Lane button?


     
    Whether you click the Take lane button or not, it turns blue as soon as clips overlap in the track. This confuses a user like me, who intentinally record to two or more lanes in certain (not all) tracks. I want to be able to tell in which tracks I intentionally created lanes, without having to expand all the tracks with the blue Take lane button.

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    Re: Please Allow Turning Take Lanes Off When There is Only One Lane or Track !!! 2016/02/06 00:38:19 (permalink)
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    ...I want to be able to tell in which tracks I intentionally created lanes, without having to expand all the tracks with the blue Take lane button.

     
    It would certainly be helpful to know which tracks have more than one lane without clicking to find out. Maybe a flag or a number displayed on or next to the take lane button would be a useful feature.

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    Re: Please Allow Turning Take Lanes Off When There is Only One Lane or Track !!! 2016/02/06 20:20:55 (permalink)
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    Just for clarity...  how would the "no lane" option differ from simply never clicking on the Track Lane button?


     
    Whether you click the Take lane button or not, it turns blue as soon as clips overlap in the track. This confuses a user like me, who intentinally record to two or more lanes in certain (not all) tracks. I want to be able to tell in which tracks I intentionally created lanes, without having to expand all the tracks with the blue Take lane button.





    Gotcha, thanks.  I was thinking the "no lanes" thing meant physically having no lanes. 
     
    I guess I've never really paid much attention to that button.  I understand its color states, I just don't "use" it/them per se.  
     

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    Re: Please Allow Turning Take Lanes Off When There is Only One Lane or Track !!! 2016/02/07 01:39:52 (permalink)
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    I was using loop recording tonight, capturing take lanes. Then using speed comping to get the best performance bits from like 10 take lanes per overall performance. Then flattening the comp when I had made my selections. It was speedy.

    It's a joy. It's brilliant. It's so much fun. I won't complain about them again. Really nice feature of Sonar.

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    Re: Please Allow Turning Take Lanes Off When There is Only One Lane or Track !!! 2016/02/07 17:49:59 (permalink)
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    I was using loop recording tonight, capturing take lanes. Then using speed comping to get the best performance bits from like 10 take lanes per overall performance. Then flattening the comp when I had made my selections. It was speedy.

    It's a joy. It's brilliant. It's so much fun. I won't complain about them again. Really nice feature of Sonar.



    I'm not against "Take Lanes",  especially for recording audio,  but for loop recording midi data,   I at least want the option of completely shutting it off.  It's just unnecessary and it can be cumbersome when you want to edit midi data.  

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    Re: Please Allow Turning Take Lanes Off When There is Only One Lane or Track !!! 2016/02/07 18:42:48 (permalink)
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    I was using loop recording tonight, capturing take lanes. Then using speed comping to get the best performance bits from like 10 take lanes per overall performance. Then flattening the comp when I had made my selections. It was speedy.

    It's a joy. It's brilliant. It's so much fun. I won't complain about them again. Really nice feature of Sonar.



    I'm not against "Take Lanes",  especially for recording audio,  but for loop recording midi data,   I at least want the option of completely shutting it off.  It's just unnecessary and it can be cumbersome when you want to edit midi data.  


    What if you're just jamming on a keyboard and letting the takes get captured in MIDI? Then you can capture your best riffs or bits. Applies as equally useful as audio.

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    Re: Please Allow Turning Take Lanes Off When There is Only One Lane or Track !!! 2016/02/07 20:32:20 (permalink)
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    lawajavaWhat if you're just jamming on a keyboard and letting the takes get captured in MIDI? Then you can capture your best riffs or bits. Applies as equally useful as audio.



    Recording audio is a lot different than recording midi.  In actuality,  it's apples to oranges.  You can edit midi in a way that you can't edit audio.   I've never seen a midi sequencer that handles midi data the way Sonar does,  and like I said,  I don't have anything against it,  but I would like to be able to toggle it off so that Sonar will behave the way it has in so many former versions of Sonar.   As far as I'm concerned,  "Take Lanes" are a relatively new feature in Sonar.  I don't think it was there before X1.   I just want to be able to toggle it off, and I'm certainly not the only one.

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