Sony TV as monitor (WORKING)

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2016/02/08 22:26:55 (permalink)

Sony TV as monitor (WORKING)

I'm trying to use my Sony TV as a PC monitor via HDMI, but it's not working. I know that all the cables, ports etc. are working but it won't display on the TV. The HDMI output on the graphics card works fine on a computer monitor but not the TV. The TV is almost 10 years old so I'm thinking that the HDMI may not be standard. Everything else displays on the TV via HDMI, including my camera and my Blu Ray player.
 
Any ideas?
post edited by ampfixer - 2016/02/10 18:21:47

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    arlen2133
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    Re: Sony TV as monitor 2016/02/09 00:15:43 (permalink)
    John, 
    I'm using a Sony TV as my monitor as well.  
    Are you sure you're using the correct HDMI (there are usually at least two of these).
    I had this problem early on but was able to set it (and leave it)..
     

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    Re: Sony TV as monitor 2016/02/09 01:32:32 (permalink)
    Check if there is a PC setting / profile that can be assigned to the TV HDMI port.
     
    My Samsung TV will output the display fine regardless of the setting, but setting it to PC enable full 1080 x 1920 resolution.

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    Re: Sony TV as monitor 2016/02/09 07:44:02 (permalink)
    Refresh rate not supported by the (old-ish) TV perhaps?
     
    Have you set-up the desktop's graphics options ('output to', 'resolution' etc.) correctly for the computer to use the TV (as an extended desktop I would presume)?
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    Re: Sony TV as monitor 2016/02/09 12:09:37 (permalink)
    +1 either an unsupported refresh rate or resolution could be the problem. I tried to use an old monitor on a new computer and the new UEFI startup screen was black because the resolution was too high for the old monitor. Once in Windows I could set the resolution to usable values. 
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    Re: Sony TV as monitor 2016/02/09 14:38:49 (permalink)
    I have tried all the combinations at my disposal. It looks like the HDMI spec on the TV is not compatible with the computer HDMI. Probably not a lot of video cards using HDMI 10 years ago. I tried both of my available HDMI inputs and both fail with the computer. I guess I'm stuck with a 4:3 display using the VGA option. I can force it full screen but the aspect ratio is not quite right.

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    Re: Sony TV as monitor 2016/02/09 16:55:25 (permalink)
    ampfixer
    I have tried all the combinations at my disposal. It looks like the HDMI spec on the TV is not compatible with the computer HDMI. Probably not a lot of video cards using HDMI 10 years ago. I tried both of my available HDMI inputs and both fail with the computer. I guess I'm stuck with a 4:3 display using the VGA option. I can force it full screen but the aspect ratio is not quite right.




    I've been using the VGA on my LG flatscreen "TV". I got it to kind of sort of force it full screen using the custom options in the NVIDIA (well... GEForce) control panel. Everything is in proper perspective (as in not stretched) but a few pixels on either side of the image had to be sacrificed... and I had to REALLY screw around with the custom settings.
     
    So yeah... if you have a control panel for your vid card try out the custom settings.
     
    This however may or may not cause other oddities (I think you saw my other thread(s) about this).
     
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    Re: Sony TV as monitor 2016/02/09 20:51:10 (permalink)
    What is the TV screen resolution ?

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    Re: Sony TV as monitor 2016/02/09 22:38:36 (permalink)
    Does this help?
     
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    Re: Sony TV as monitor 2016/02/10 01:12:51 (permalink)
    Spec seems fine to me.

    The only time I've  experienced lower resolution than what's available on the monitor is in a multi monitor setup where the graphic card runs out of memory - In my case, I can't get my single graphic card to support 3x 1080p monitors. I've since added another graphic card.

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    Re: Sony TV as monitor 2016/02/10 05:41:37 (permalink)
    Does the computer give you some kind of indication that it knows it's connected to the TV?
     
    What options do you see under 'rclick desktop->graphics options->output to'?
     
    I can't see any obvious reason why the computer can't drive the TV at 1920x1080.  The HDMI spec has changed a bit over time, but only to add extensions as I understand it.
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    Re: Sony TV as monitor 2016/02/10 06:49:06 (permalink)
    Not sure if a change of HDMI cable may help.. if it's VGA cable, there are some that does not implement the pin connection correctly. Once I got a longer VGA cable and my system can't do hand shake with the monitor to get it's intended resolution. When I did a pin test with a volt meter, it shows one pin is not connected. Replacing it with the original shorter cable solved the problem (did a volt meter test to confirm all pins are connected).

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    Re: Sony TV as monitor 2016/02/10 11:46:05 (permalink)
    If Sony had a forum like this one I would be up and running by now. I have tried 2 HMDI cables. They both work with a monitor but not a TV. I've checked the manuals and they always show the computer connected to the TV with a VGA cable, so it's possible that Sony didn't think people would connect a PC with an HDMI cable. The computer identifies the Sony TV as a monitor and certain sections of the TV that are only active with a computer are turned on when I connect the PC. Everything is aware of everything else, it just won't work.
     
    Maybe time to cap this discussion, I'm out of options. Thanks for sharing your ideas.

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    Re: Sony TV as monitor 2016/02/10 12:15:11 (permalink)
    I'll give it one more shot.. (now that I recalled).. when I connect via HDMI (if your driver is Radeon, not sure about Nvidia) the screen got shrunk a bit and I need to open up the display driver option and uncheck (or check) a "scaling" option. Doing so enable full screen. That might as well be the case.
     
    If you're using VGA - do test all pins with a volt tester - this was a huge problem for me till I get the right cable.

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    Re: Sony TV as monitor 2016/02/10 15:27:48 (permalink)
    There is mention here about activating the second display in Windows to get HDMI to work. Sounds odd, but might be worth a try.
    http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/tech-tips-and-tricks/dave-taylor-hdmi-article.html
     
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    Re: Sony TV as monitor 2016/02/10 18:21:18 (permalink)
    Thank you all.
     
    I now have it working. It's not using the HDMI but the post from slartablast got me to check the windows display settings and setting it to have 2 identical displays and not span them allowed my TV to sync the VGA input full screen.
     
    There is the nvidia control panel, windows control panel and the TV control panel. They all affect each other, what a pain. This has been much harder to troubleshoot than any music related issues I've ever had. Thanks again.

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    Re: Sony TV as monitor 2016/02/21 08:48:35 (permalink)
    Thanks for this post. I am trying to interface my composite RCA ports on a Samsung tv to communicate with older style db15 pin VGA video card. I know I can purchase a device to do this, but love the challenge.
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