Amplitude Stats.....Butter on My Toast

bitflipper
Given the genre, those stats are fine.
 
Except for the troubling number of overs. 300 can be inaudible or they could be distracting, depending on their distribution. I don't bother asking myself if they're audible or not, I just make sure there aren't any (like you, I use Audition to verify that).
 
Audition has a feature that lets you jump to the first suspected over, which lets you quickly zero in on where they're coming from. In all probability, those overs are occurring on the snare hits, in which case all you need is a limiter on the drum bus to keep them under control. You can verify this in AA6 by selecting a snare hit, which should be clearly visible in the waveform, and running amplitude statistics on just that small section. 

Danny Danzi

Jesse Screed
Hey, I just figured maybe the nerds could interpret my data.
 
http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=13262425&q=hi
 
Good Morning Campers,
 
Sorry to be such a pest, but I am trying to hone my skills.  Please listen to this new mix and bash the living heaven out of it if you wish.  Here are the Amp Stats, according to AA6.
 
Possibly clipped samps.....300
T RMS....-13.95
Max RMS...-4.35
Min RMS....-79.30
Avg RMS...16.27
DNR....75
DNR Used...68.00
Loudness....-13.00
Perceived Loudness....11.7
LUFS....14.60
 
Can anyone reply if I am in the ballpark?  Or am I looking in a dark room?
The angle I want to explore is transient vs  amplitude.  Trying to make that connection between fast attack to resolution and slow attack to resolution.  There is a crossover there somewhere.  Still mulling it over.
 
Jesse Q. Screed

Hi Jesse,
 
Was the above achieved by scoping an mp3 or the actual wave file? If it was an mp3, go back and try the analysis with a wave file and see if it changes because it SHOULD. If that is a wave file, then yeah, the 300 possibly clipped samples definitely need to be looked at more closely.
 
That said, I didn't hear anything that sounded clipped on this end. I can say this, I get different numbers in Wave Lab than I do Adobe or Sony or even Studio One. Some editors have a resistance option (Wave Lab) that you can set to a certain threshold and if you set it too sensitive, it may give off false readings. I don't know anything about AA6, so you may want to see if it too has some sort of threshold control on how it reports.
 
Just remember, try to keep your master files no louder than -0.3 if you can help it before you convert to MP3. I keep mine between -0.3 to -1dB and never have any issues.
 
Sometimes when software reports clipped samples, it can be transients from snare drums, kick drums lack of compression or lack of automation. I'm actually recording your song as it is playing through SoundClick just to see the wave file, and it doesn't look abnormal to me. I'm waiting for it to finish so I can get some stats on it. But I primarily did this so I could physically see the file. This is what I see recording it as a wave file.
 
                               Left         Right
Min Sample Value:    -32598    -32596
Max Sample Value:    32597    32589
Peak Amplitude:    -.05 dB    -.05 dB
Possibly Clipped:    0    0
DC Offset:    0     0
Minimum RMS Power:    -106.8 dB    -113.33 dB
Maximum RMS Power:    -5.93 dB    -6.1 dB
Average RMS Power:    -15.12 dB    -15.6 dB
Total RMS Power:    -14.29 dB    -14.74 dB
Actual Bit Depth:    16 Bits    16 Bits

Using RMS Window of 50 ms


Nothing bad there in my opinion. The -6 Max RMS are due to some pretty strong peaks, lack of compression and you're in need of some fader automation as I mentioned above. Now granted, I captured this in real time playing off of Sound Click so it's not as accurate as me seeing/using your actual wave file. I really think that's a pretty accurate reading though because I can't see that -0.5 consistency on both sides happening by coincidence.
 
Now Studio One reports something else and claims your peaks are at 0dB yet the meters never actually hit 0dB. Wave Lab is around the same as Adobe with only your Max RMS being louder at -3dB...which is really loud even for a peak to be there. So though nothing sticks out to me as being horribly wrong, I'd concentrate on proper compression on each instrument in your tracks as well as fader automation to control your mix further. If the -0.5 is correct, and nothing ever touches 0dB, you're fine. Hope some of this helps. :)
 
-Danny

batsbrew
jesse,
you SHOULD have a reason to compress and/or limit that snare!!
 
the idea with mixing,
is that it is YOUR job to make each individual track behave.
 
either by eq, compression, simple track volume and/or panning, or all of the above.
 
and it depends on the style of music,
and the way each track was recorded.
 
if for example, you recorded a guy hitting a snare by himself, in a room, with one mic,
and the mic is close,
it will respond being recorded completely differently, and playback differently, than if the mic was 5 feet away.
 
 
YOU have to decide how dynamic something needs to be,
to be mixed properly.
 
that's the trickiest part of mixing, in my opinion,
being able to make THE RIGHT CALL.