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Open-Eyed Girl - High energy rocker- Critiques welcome
Like old-school rockers that really move? Then you want to listen to Open-Eyed Girl! As always, any comments, suggestions or critiques welcome!
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Re: Open-Eyed Girl - High energy rocker- Critiques welcome
2016/03/06 11:03:41
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It certainly moves! This has very '60's sound to it, which I think comes from the vocal melody (it's good and strong, nice use of backing vocals to reinforce it) and the mix, where the drums are pretty much buried beneath the guitars. If that's what you're going for, it's fine as is.
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Re: Open-Eyed Girl - High energy rocker- Critiques welcome
2016/03/07 14:29:53
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Ditto on the 60's vibe.... very much so! You could have posted this as some recently discovered track and I would have bought it. Mix-wise, for me the drums are getting very lost in the mix (mostly snare and cymbals) with the bass just a little above them. The vocals and guitars are strong though, and I loved the organ part!
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rbecker
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Re: Open-Eyed Girl - High energy rocker- Critiques welcome
2016/03/07 15:57:29
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I notice that a very common critique of my tunes is the drums being low in the mix. I need to pay more attention to that. Thanks for the input.
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Re: Open-Eyed Girl - High energy rocker- Critiques welcome
2016/03/07 23:04:08
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I think you can do better on the mix. The playing seems good. Lead vocal might me ahead of the beat at least once. For the mix, the lead voc and guitars are a bit too loud (thus the drums seem too far back). I listened to this Cheap Trick mix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wyL1NtMVPo And compared it to yours. If you A/B them both, you will see quickly what you might want to try on your song.
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Re: Open-Eyed Girl - High energy rocker- Critiques welcome
2016/03/08 09:31:59
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Rimshot- Thanks for the critique and link: I will certainly listen to "I Want You to Want Me" for mix ideas. You caught the problem with the vocal sync...I will fix that in the next mix version.
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Re: Open-Eyed Girl - High energy rocker- Critiques welcome
2016/03/08 20:36:26
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It's a good song with nice, creative harmony changes. It has some issues, that already has been pointed out. Good singing, I don't think it would be needed to lower the vox, but the guitar is too loud (is it synth guitar, btw?).
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rbecker
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Re: Open-Eyed Girl - High energy rocker- Critiques welcome
2016/03/09 09:57:20
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Leizer wrote: "...is it synth guitar, btw?" Yes, I use Realguitar and Realstrat. I am constantly striving for the most authentic sound I can get. Hmmmm....Now I'm tempted to post just some test guitar riffs and see what the forum has to say...But maybe that belongs in the "Techniques" forum.
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Re: Open-Eyed Girl - High energy rocker- Critiques welcome
2016/03/09 16:45:42
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I really like the retro feel to this number. I agree that the drums could come forward a bit. If you were going for that mid - to - late '60's sound perhaps the keyboard should also come up a bit more also (IMHO sometimes they were a bit too prominent though). The vocals and harmony are very good. Over all I think you did a great job. Nice one!
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Re: Open-Eyed Girl - High energy rocker- Critiques welcome
2016/03/11 21:34:34
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Hi Bob, sorry you've been listening to my stuff, and I've been terribly rude. More Tull, sounds like mid 70's Tull and Songs From The Wood. I don't mind the sound, instrumentation and playing. The mix though, is not great-or the master...the mix isn't bad...you can hear everything clearly, but the final master doesn't have any punch. Sorry, I'm thinking and writing at the same time. I think you need to get your gain staging right first. This would be my advice. Work out what you think should be the stand out track and aim for 0 DB on a VU meter...one of Sonar's virtual ones is fine. The rest of the tracks should be variations on this in regards to gain staging. Between 0 to -6 DB. And don't worry about overs, unless you're planning to use outboard equipment. Drums, should all be 0 DB on a VU meter too, but buss these. For the drums to get punch, if you're using Sonar-Console Emulator, EQ then Tape Emulator and listen for the transients...then buss. Don't worry about overs, once you've set the balance of the drums turn the gain stage down on the buss so you have about 4DB of headroom. Then more Tape, which can also be used to create the 4DB of headroom, compress and finally console emulator, and again listen for the transients. Any sort of verb busses, set all your sends to -3db, again don't worry about overs, then use the tape emulator to get a reading of -18db to -12 db, depending on verb set the high and low shelf to -80Hz and -4khz roughly...actually the EQ if you're not using the one on the plug should be before the tape sim, then console emulator...again trying to hear for the transient. Then you can mix the verb to suit the mix. This should keep you busy for a while...any questions, just ask. :) Ben
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Re: Open-Eyed Girl - High energy rocker- Critiques welcome
2016/03/14 15:48:11
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Drums and bass are kind of lost IMO.
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Re: Open-Eyed Girl - High energy rocker- Critiques welcome
2016/03/14 21:39:16
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Now that is certainly a unique tone from the guitar really digging it .... my first impression was it sounded like "crispy cardboard" ... How cool is that! Love the organ - give's it an Eric Burdon & Animals vibe. Really cool tune. Nice retro production.
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Re: Open-Eyed Girl - High energy rocker- Critiques welcome
2016/03/15 13:13:09
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Tap Now that is certainly a unique tone from the guitar really digging it .... my first impression was it sounded like "crispy cardboard" ... How cool is that! Love the organ - give's it an Eric Burdon & Animals vibe. Really cool tune. Nice retro production.
Thank for all the replies. I am running the guitar through TH2 Pro.: TubeNine pedal, amp+cab and flanger pedal. For the organ, I took a page from "Born to be Wild" and run the DimensionPro Hammond Soul through a Cakewalk amp sim "American Lead" guitar amp then the TL-64 Tube leveler on "Subtle Warm Dirt" setting.
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Re: Open-Eyed Girl - High energy rocker- Critiques welcome
2016/03/22 15:19:12
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Yep, great tune! I like the mix a lot, except in the guitar solo, it seems a bit loud for me, especially when the organ, which sounds fine to me, jumps in. Really nice sound overall!
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