Helpful ReplyFake bass sounds using a guitar

Author
Chandler
Max Output Level: -81 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 477
  • Joined: 2012/11/02 08:56:21
  • Status: offline
2016/03/07 20:21:22 (permalink)

Fake bass sounds using a guitar

I made a video on how to get a bass sound using a guitar. Of course it's demonstrated in Sonar and everything I used is free. Although it's not a perfect bass sound IMO it is preferable to samples if you want realism in terms of slides, dynamics, timing, ect. I hope this helps some of you.

https://youtu.be/_iJlTc_qdrQ

My soundcloud page Chandlerhimself
My Youtube page
#1
bapu
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 86000
  • Joined: 2006/11/25 21:23:28
  • Location: Thousand Oaks, CA
  • Status: offline
Re: Fake bass sounds using a guitar 2016/03/07 20:34:28 (permalink)
I'd prefer a vid on how to make my bass sound like a guitar.
#2
dwardzala
Max Output Level: -61 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 1470
  • Joined: 2008/05/26 19:18:33
  • Status: offline
Re: Fake bass sounds using a guitar 2016/03/07 20:52:13 (permalink)
I'd prefer a video on how to make my guitar sound like a guitar.

Dave
Main Studio- Core i5 @2.67GHz, 16Gb Ram, (2) 500Gb HDs, (1) 360 Gb HD
MotU Ultralite AVB, Axiom 49 Midi Controller, Akai MPD18 Midi Controller
Win10 x64 Home
Sonar 2017.06 Platinum (and X3e, X2c, X1d)
 
Mobile Studio - Sager NP8677 (i7-6700HQ @2.67MHz, 16G Ram, 250G SSD, 1T HD)
M-Box Mini v. 2
Win 10 x64 Home
Sonar 2016.10 Platinum
 
Check out my original music:
https://soundcloud.com/d-wardzala/sets/d-wardzala-original-music
 
 
#3
Karyn
Ma-Ma
  • Total Posts : 9200
  • Joined: 2009/01/30 08:03:10
  • Location: Lincoln, England.
  • Status: offline
Re: Fake bass sounds using a guitar 2016/03/08 07:05:57 (permalink)
Bapu needs a video on how to make his bass sound like a bass 

Mekashi Futo
Get 10% off all Waves plugins.
Current DAW.  i7-950, Gigabyte EX58-UD5, 12Gb RAM, 1Tb SSD, 2x2Tb HDD, nVidia GTX 260, Antec 1000W psu, Win7 64bit, Studio 192, Digimax FS, KRK RP8G2, Sonar Platinum

#4
jamesg1213
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 21760
  • Joined: 2006/04/18 14:42:48
  • Location: SW Scotland
  • Status: offline
Re: Fake bass sounds using a guitar 2016/03/08 08:21:40 (permalink)
Interesting. What I've tried (thanks to Kenny Wilson for the tip) was to play the bass part on guitar, then insert a soft synth simple instrument track with a bass patch, drag the audio into it and let Melodyne convert the audio to MIDI.
 
...then I emailed Bapu to do me a bass track cos it sounded like ****

 
Jyemz
 
 
 



Thrombold's Patented Brisk Weather Pantaloonettes with Inclementometer
#5
jerrydf
Max Output Level: -85 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 280
  • Joined: 2007/03/24 19:27:45
  • Location: Warwickshire, UK
  • Status: offline
Re: Fake bass sounds using a guitar 2016/03/08 08:28:27 (permalink)
I've recorded a part on a telecaster audio track, dragged into a Dimension Pro track set to Wood (Double) Bass; dragged down an octave and added some slight bends. It was quite convincing. 

i5 6500 3.2GHz; 16GB; Win10 on SSD1; recording and samples on SSD2;  + 3 other HDDs; 2 monitors in landscape;  back with CbB and also Cubase 10 Pro,  Komplete 11, Steinberg UR22.
Instruments: Various fretboards and amplifiers.
Listen to ... Cosmic Two-Step (2017)
#6
Guitarhacker
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 24398
  • Joined: 2007/12/07 12:51:18
  • Location: NC
  • Status: offline
Re: Fake bass sounds using a guitar 2016/03/08 09:36:08 (permalink)
Ain't technology great?
 

My website & music: www.herbhartley.com

MC4/5/6/X1e.c, on a Custom DAW   
Focusrite Firewire Saffire Interface


BMI/NSAI

"Just as the blade chooses the warrior, so too, the song chooses the writer 
#7
Kamikaze
Max Output Level: -45 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 3013
  • Joined: 2015/01/15 21:38:59
  • Location: Da Nang, Vietnam
  • Status: offline
Re: Fake bass sounds using a guitar 2016/03/08 09:45:43 (permalink)
Yes it ain't, err.. No it Aint, No I mean yes

 
#8
RSMCGUITAR
Max Output Level: -64 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 1318
  • Joined: 2014/12/27 02:33:15
  • Location: Toronto
  • Status: offline
Re: Fake bass sounds using a guitar 2016/03/08 14:54:27 (permalink)
It ain't free but I run my guitar through a MXR bass octave deluxe
#9
Chandler
Max Output Level: -81 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 477
  • Joined: 2012/11/02 08:56:21
  • Status: offline
Re: Fake bass sounds using a guitar 2016/03/09 20:00:51 (permalink)
dwardzala
I'd prefer a video on how to make my guitar sound like a guitar.


I can make a vid on how to make your guitar sound like a bad guitar. I'm an expert on that subject.

My soundcloud page Chandlerhimself
My Youtube page
#10
Mesh
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 27360
  • Joined: 2009/11/27 14:08:08
  • Location: Online right here!
  • Status: offline
Re: Fake bass sounds using a guitar 2016/03/10 09:47:55 (permalink)
This is something us guitarists are always looking to find (guitar to bass).....I use Jam Origin's  Midi Guitar and it works very well.......until I get carried away with soloing.
 
You can also do this in Amplitube3 & 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WD0AkR0g-k 
 
Good tip there Chandler!!

Platinum Gaming DAW: AsRock Z77 Overclock Formula
I7 3770k @ 4.5GHz : 16GB RAM G.Skill Ripjaws X
250GB OS SSD : 3TB HDD : 1TB Sample HDD
Win 10 Pro x 64 : NH-D14 CPU Cooler 
HIS IceQ  2GB HD 7870
Focusrite Scarlett 2i4
The_Forum_Monkeys
#11
ston
Max Output Level: -71 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 965
  • Joined: 2008/03/04 12:28:40
  • Status: offline
Re: Fake bass sounds using a guitar 2016/03/10 10:37:18 (permalink)
Probably the best direct conversion of analogue guitar signal to bass sound I've found is the COSM effect(s) to be found in the Boss Micro BR-80.  I was so impressed that I went looking for any other examples of this and found it in the Roland (AKA Boss) GP-10.  Somewhat surprisingly, I think the BR-80 does it better!
 
Ross/Boland do not make a stand-alone pedal to do this, which is a bit of a shame IMHO.
#12
dwardzala
Max Output Level: -61 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 1470
  • Joined: 2008/05/26 19:18:33
  • Status: offline
Re: Fake bass sounds using a guitar 2016/03/10 16:37:12 (permalink)
ston
Probably the best direct conversion of analogue guitar signal to bass sound I've found is the COSM effect(s) to be found in the Boss Micro BR-80.  I was so impressed that I went looking for any other examples of this and found it in the Roland (AKA Boss) GP-10.  Somewhat surprisingly, I think the BR-80 does it better!
 
Ross/Boland do not make a stand-alone pedal to do this, which is a bit of a shame IMHO.


I've used the COSM effect as well to convert guitar to bass and it worked well.  The only drawback is if you are holding the bass note for a long time, as the signal decays the pitch gets a little wonky.

Dave
Main Studio- Core i5 @2.67GHz, 16Gb Ram, (2) 500Gb HDs, (1) 360 Gb HD
MotU Ultralite AVB, Axiom 49 Midi Controller, Akai MPD18 Midi Controller
Win10 x64 Home
Sonar 2017.06 Platinum (and X3e, X2c, X1d)
 
Mobile Studio - Sager NP8677 (i7-6700HQ @2.67MHz, 16G Ram, 250G SSD, 1T HD)
M-Box Mini v. 2
Win 10 x64 Home
Sonar 2016.10 Platinum
 
Check out my original music:
https://soundcloud.com/d-wardzala/sets/d-wardzala-original-music
 
 
#13
batsbrew
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 10037
  • Joined: 2007/06/07 16:02:32
  • Location: SL,UT
  • Status: offline
Re: Fake bass sounds using a guitar 2016/03/10 16:47:41 (permalink)
wouldn't be easier to simply get an electric bass and play it?

Bats Brew music Streaming
Bats Brew albums:
"Trouble"
"Stay"
"The Time is Magic"
--
Sonar 6 PE>Bandlab Cakewalk>Studio One 3.5>RME BFP>i7-7700 3.6GHz>MSI B250M>G.Skill Ripjaws 4 series 16GB>Samsung 960 EVO m.2ssd>W 10 Pro
 
#14
dwardzala
Max Output Level: -61 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 1470
  • Joined: 2008/05/26 19:18:33
  • Status: offline
Re: Fake bass sounds using a guitar 2016/03/11 10:32:15 (permalink)
batsbrew
wouldn't be easier to simply get an electric bass and play it?


And after I finished recording that track, that is what I did.  Although my bass playing sucks.

Dave
Main Studio- Core i5 @2.67GHz, 16Gb Ram, (2) 500Gb HDs, (1) 360 Gb HD
MotU Ultralite AVB, Axiom 49 Midi Controller, Akai MPD18 Midi Controller
Win10 x64 Home
Sonar 2017.06 Platinum (and X3e, X2c, X1d)
 
Mobile Studio - Sager NP8677 (i7-6700HQ @2.67MHz, 16G Ram, 250G SSD, 1T HD)
M-Box Mini v. 2
Win 10 x64 Home
Sonar 2016.10 Platinum
 
Check out my original music:
https://soundcloud.com/d-wardzala/sets/d-wardzala-original-music
 
 
#15
michaelhanson
Max Output Level: -40 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 3529
  • Joined: 2008/10/31 15:19:56
  • Location: Mesquite, Texas
  • Status: offline
Re: Fake bass sounds using a guitar 2016/03/11 12:00:51 (permalink)
batsbrew
wouldn't be easier to simply get an electric bass and play it?


Yep....and then you play it more like a bass as well.

Mike

https://soundcloud.com/michaeljhanson
https://www.facebook.com/michaeljhanson.music
iTunes:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/scandalous-grace/id1180730765
 
Platinum Lifetime, Focusrite 8i6 & 2i4, Gibson LP, ES335, Fender Strat, 4003 Rickenbacker
BMI
#16
mcourter
Max Output Level: -41 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 3442
  • Joined: 2006/02/27 16:57:11
  • Location: Los Angeles area
  • Status: offline
Re: Fake bass sounds using a guitar 2016/03/25 13:44:09 (permalink)
After trying to replicate bass on guitar a few times, I found a simple solution: I got a bass.

A few guitars, a couple of basses, a MIDI controller, a mandolin, a banjo, a mic, PodFarm2
Unbridled Enthusiasm
 My music: www.Soundclick.com/markcourter
#17
Guitarhacker
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 24398
  • Joined: 2007/12/07 12:51:18
  • Location: NC
  • Status: offline
Re: Fake bass sounds using a guitar 2016/03/26 08:28:28 (permalink)
Got to agree with a few of the posts above....
 
I tried this method. I don't think my Sonar 1 essential has the ability to alter the pitch so I grabbed Melodyne and used it.  Played a "bass line" on the guitar.... used Melodyne Editor to move it 12 semitones down.... and hit playback...
 
OMG that sounds like S*&@!  Tried a few things to fix it.... nope...still sounds bad if not worse.  Nothing even close to what the OP said they got going this.... Oh well,,,,, it was a fun experiment.
 
Delete the experiment and continue to use Midi with a good bass sample until I get a real bass guitar.... I'll probably be using midi for some time.

My website & music: www.herbhartley.com

MC4/5/6/X1e.c, on a Custom DAW   
Focusrite Firewire Saffire Interface


BMI/NSAI

"Just as the blade chooses the warrior, so too, the song chooses the writer 
#18
jamesg1213
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 21760
  • Joined: 2006/04/18 14:42:48
  • Location: SW Scotland
  • Status: offline
Re: Fake bass sounds using a guitar 2016/03/26 09:29:25 (permalink)
ston
Probably the best direct conversion of analogue guitar signal to bass sound I've found is the COSM effect(s) to be found in the Boss Micro BR-80.  I was so impressed that I went looking for any other examples of this and found it in the Roland (AKA Boss) GP-10.  Somewhat surprisingly, I think the BR-80 does it better!
 
Ross/Boland do not make a stand-alone pedal to do this, which is a bit of a shame IMHO.




I still use an ancient Boss BR-8 as a guitar modeller. Such great tones from that unit, I can't bear to part with it.

 
Jyemz
 
 
 



Thrombold's Patented Brisk Weather Pantaloonettes with Inclementometer
#19
kennywtelejazz
Max Output Level: -3.5 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 7151
  • Joined: 2005/10/22 06:27:02
  • Location: The Planet Tele..X..
  • Status: offline
Re: Fake bass sounds using a guitar 2016/03/26 15:26:40 (permalink)

Some real funny stuff going on here ….
Aye Carrumba  , I thought some of you guitar players around here play well enough to play a real bass 
 
Heres a conversion I did where I converted a real Bass part that I had played …
one side is my Bass , the other side is a Melodyne audio conversion to Midi playing Dim Pro 
http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=13308818 
 
Kenny
 
PS my inner bapu made me do it 
post edited by kennywtelejazz - 2016/03/26 15:52:37

                   
Oh Yeah , Life is Good .
The internet is nothing more than a glorified real time cartoon we all star in.
I play a "Gibson " R 8 Les Paul Cherry Sunburst .
The Love of my Life is an American Bulldog Named Duke . I'm currently running Cakewalk By BandLab as my DAW .
 
https://soundcloud.com/guitarist-kenny-wilson
 
https://www.youtube.com/user/Kennywtelejazz/videos?view=0&sort=dd&shelf_id=1
 
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=427899



#20
Voda La Void
Max Output Level: -76 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 723
  • Joined: 2011/02/12 09:15:07
  • Location: Broken Arrow, OK
  • Status: offline
Re: Fake bass sounds using a guitar 2016/03/28 14:09:52 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby kennywtelejazz 2016/03/29 16:27:52
Thing is, a cheap bass (under 100 bucks on CL) still sounds infinitely better than any bass synth I've ever heard.  I'm not a search and sample kind of guy so maybe I haven't heard really great synth sounds, but seriously, I was amazed how easy a deep, rich bass sound was from a real bass guitar.  You can spend money if you want to, but you really don't have to spend much to beat a guitar trying to sound like a bass.  I'm the poorest musician on this forum, I'm pretty sure, and I did it for under a hundred bucks.  
 
And the time a real bass saves you, too...I mean come on, that's worth its weight right there.  Who wants to point and click for hours when you can knock it out in 10 or 15 minutes actually playing?

Voda La Void...experiments in disturbing frequencies...
#21
dwardzala
Max Output Level: -61 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 1470
  • Joined: 2008/05/26 19:18:33
  • Status: offline
Re: Fake bass sounds using a guitar 2016/03/29 09:50:26 (permalink)
As for time, it depends on your skill level and what midi input methods you have available to you.  I struggle with a lot of string noise when I am releasing the strings from a fret which reduces my confidence when playing.  I can input bass synth parts very quickly using a midi keyboard.  I bought my bass prior to moving in the box (I used a BR600 digital recorder to record tracks and mixed using GT Pro 3 and 4.)  Then I bought my bass and shortly after moved into the box.

Dave
Main Studio- Core i5 @2.67GHz, 16Gb Ram, (2) 500Gb HDs, (1) 360 Gb HD
MotU Ultralite AVB, Axiom 49 Midi Controller, Akai MPD18 Midi Controller
Win10 x64 Home
Sonar 2017.06 Platinum (and X3e, X2c, X1d)
 
Mobile Studio - Sager NP8677 (i7-6700HQ @2.67MHz, 16G Ram, 250G SSD, 1T HD)
M-Box Mini v. 2
Win 10 x64 Home
Sonar 2016.10 Platinum
 
Check out my original music:
https://soundcloud.com/d-wardzala/sets/d-wardzala-original-music
 
 
#22
Jump to:
© 2024 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1