Windows 10 + Sonar Platinum -> cpu maxin out

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2016/03/10 09:56:30 (permalink)

Windows 10 + Sonar Platinum -> cpu maxin out

I'm having issues with my CPU getting too much load. The meters reveal that only the first core is pushing hard. I thought Windows 10 should be way better on dividing the load compared to Win7. My project has one instance of omnisphere which contains seven instruments. I hear "farts" and windows task manager reveals that the CPU is going to 100%. Rising the buffer size doesn't help. Never had problems with CPU power before. The CPU is I7-2600k.
 
Any ideas?
 
EDIT: Things that have changed in my system recently is the OS (Win7 -> 10) and Sonar Lexington -> Newburywhateveritscalled

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    gustabo
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    Re: Windows 10 + Sonar Platinum -> cpu maxin out 2016/03/10 10:12:09 (permalink)
    Have you made sure that core parking is turned off?


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    Re: Windows 10 + Sonar Platinum -> cpu maxin out 2016/03/10 10:35:49 (permalink)
    Maybe roll back to Manchester and see what happens?

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    Re: Windows 10 + Sonar Platinum -> cpu maxin out 2016/03/10 10:48:13 (permalink)
    Turning off Core parking does come to mind. There are already a few threads on this here.  Also turning off all the obvious Windows 10 resource drains like Defender, Anti-Virus, live tiles, etc. 
    Keep us posted ; )

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    Re: Windows 10 + Sonar Platinum -> cpu maxin out 2016/03/10 11:09:35 (permalink)
    Are you using Omnisphere in multi-mode?  I was never sure whether it was better to run it in multi, or just insert a new instance for each patch with a single stereo out - and I read somewhere that the latter approach can produce less demand on the processor (somewhat counter-intuitively).
     
    My setup is similar(ish) to yours in the CPU department and I can normally have 5 or so instances of Omnisphere plus Kontakt, Arturia synths, audio tracks as well as numerous plugs without breakups.
     
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    Re: Windows 10 + Sonar Platinum -> cpu maxin out 2016/03/10 12:07:05 (permalink)
    What is the CPU load without Sonar running?  After I updated to Windows 10 my first CPU core was 90%+ after after booting up the system.  I Sonar then has all sorts of performance issues, but the CPU drain in my case was not Sonar, but system interrupts which was hogging the first core.  I have sorted fixed the system interrupts issue  and the CPU is only at 1% or so before I start Sonar and now no more sonar performance issue.  
     
    The only issue with Sonar is idiot (me) on the other side of the keyboard :-).  
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    Re: Windows 10 + Sonar Platinum -> cpu maxin out 2016/03/10 12:11:29 (permalink)
    gustabo
    Have you made sure that core parking is turned off?


     
    I never even knew such thing exists. I checked my power management setup and seems like the CPU maxing went away. :)
     
    californiamusic
    Turning off Core parking does come to mind. There are already a few threads on this here.  Also turning off all the obvious Windows 10 resource drains like Defender, Anti-Virus, live tiles, etc. 
    Keep us posted ; )




    I've always had my antivirus and firewall software on without conflicts. Is Windows 10 defender particularly bad? I used ZoneAlarm before but it doesn't work well in Win10.
     
    Wood67
    Are you using Omnisphere in multi-mode?  I was never sure whether it was better to run it in multi, or just insert a new instance for each patch with a single stereo out - and I read somewhere that the latter approach can produce less demand on the processor (somewhat counter-intuitively).
     
    My setup is similar(ish) to yours in the CPU department and I can normally have 5 or so instances of Omnisphere plus Kontakt, Arturia synths, audio tracks as well as numerous plugs without breakups.
     
    <EDIT> I'm not on the latest SPLAT release btw (Manchester I think).  Also, I don't disable anti-virus or any other services because it is always connected, and when I get bored I need to quickly jump into Elite:Dangerous!



    I'm using multi. Wow. Didn't know it could be lighter to use separate instances. Definitely will try using Omnisphere that way since I find simple instrument tracks much easier to handle. BTW I'm using Kontakt and Arturia synths as well so we're indeed having quite similar setup. :)
     
    Thanks guys so much for all the helpful replies!

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    JoeHans
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    Re: Windows 10 + Sonar Platinum -> cpu maxin out 2016/03/10 12:41:11 (permalink)
    Tried to do a little bit of mixing with the project and still getting a couple of farts once in a while. Obviously less anyway. At this point I'm not sure if this is something that could have happened with my old setup too. I haven't used Omnisphere this much in one project for a while.
     
    ESharpe
    What is the CPU load without Sonar running?  After I updated to Windows 10 my first CPU core was 90%+ after after booting up the system.  I Sonar then has all sorts of performance issues, but the CPU drain in my case was not Sonar, but system interrupts which was hogging the first core.  I have sorted fixed the system interrupts issue  and the CPU is only at 1% or so before I start Sonar and now no more sonar performance issue.  
     
    The only issue with Sonar is idiot (me) on the other side of the keyboard :-).  


    The CPU load is 1% while writing this. Around 15% when running the project after changing the power setup. So I think the CPU at least isn't a problem anymore.

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    Re: Windows 10 + Sonar Platinum -> cpu maxin out 2016/03/10 13:07:31 (permalink)
    What audio card are you using? Update your drivers for win 10.
    There is also a way to divide the cores more evenly.
    Go to preferences / Config / set thread count to 1 less then your core. set Enable set thread  idle  process to false.
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    Re: Windows 10 + Sonar Platinum -> cpu maxin out 2016/03/10 13:27:44 (permalink)
    I have my internet connection on my audio PC turned off unless I need it.  And have anything that's not needed in Windows turned off.. you never know what can cause a conflict or take unnecessary resources ; )

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    Re: Windows 10 + Sonar Platinum -> cpu maxin out 2016/03/10 16:47:06 (permalink)
    JoeHans
    I'm having issues with my CPU getting too much load. The meters reveal that only the first core is pushing hard.



    I would double check this using the Windows Taskbar performance / resource monitoring.  My first core often shows higher than the others in the Sonar meter, but not when verified in Windows, where it's sometimes even lower.

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