Waves my Friend

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2016/03/12 14:26:19 (permalink)

Waves my Friend

Hi. Finally I managed to make a whole tune for a long time with Sonar. I would welcome some comments and tips on this tune.
https://soundcloud.com/madrigal7/waves-my-friend
Newer mix where I used the HF exciter among other things.
https://soundcloud.com/ma...aves-my-friend-new-mix
post edited by kakku - 2016/03/13 08:55:24

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    RussjWhite
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    Re: Waves my Friend 2016/03/13 05:30:55 (permalink)
    Great melodies again. Very uplifting but in a calm way. Mix wise is does sound small, narrow and too contained. it needs some brightness to the sonics, it's under a blanket at the moment. listening through cans btw. 

     
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    Re: Waves my Friend 2016/03/13 06:05:24 (permalink)
    Thank you for the comments and tips. I try to improve.

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    Re: Waves my Friend 2016/03/13 06:13:23 (permalink)
    Other than panning and some Eq work, I don't know what I could offer as help.

     
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    Re: Waves my Friend 2016/03/13 08:39:42 (permalink)
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    Other than panning and some Eq work, I don't know what I could offer as help.

    Thanks for your help. Unfortunately my mixing skill is still at noob stage.
    My latest mix version here:
    https://soundcloud.com/ma...aves-my-friend-new-mix

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    Re: Waves my Friend 2016/03/13 20:59:13 (permalink)
    Your melodies work well here. I found the drums to be sterile and the song lacks dynamics...kind of flat-lined if you know what I mean. Some variations of levels and more realistic drums would bring this to a new level.
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    Re: Waves my Friend 2016/03/14 03:22:23 (permalink)
    Thank you for your comment and I agree. The drums are just simple samples and should be replaced with better ones or with SI Drum synth. Also it would sound better with some levels changing. All this can be done by me I think so when I get to one of my computers I will try these tricks.

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    Re: Waves my Friend 2016/03/14 15:23:42 (permalink)
    Sounds like you!   
     
    I actually do hear a bit more variation in the drums than in some previous tunes, but the actual sound itself is (as Gus said) "under a blanket".    I think the SI Drum synth would be a good place to start since you already have it, perhaps by layering with the existing drum samples for more "presence".   But the synths are, as usual, the focal point and work nicely.   Brighten up that mix and they'll shine even more!

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    Re: Waves my Friend 2016/03/14 15:33:32 (permalink)
    Everyone has said it all.
     
    Drums (sound) is dull.
    Song could use for some dynamics.
    Bass could do with some attck and maybe some"riffs" with the drum fills.
     
    That all I got (as subjective thoughts).
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    Re: Waves my Friend 2016/03/15 04:34:36 (permalink)
    stevec
    Sounds like you!   
     
    I actually do hear a bit more variation in the drums than in some previous tunes, but the actual sound itself is (as Gus said) "under a blanket".    I think the SI Drum synth would be a good place to start since you already have it, perhaps by layering with the existing drum samples for more "presence".   But the synths are, as usual, the focal point and work nicely.   Brighten up that mix and they'll shine even more!

    Thank you for your comments and tips Steve and Bapu. I will return to this tune when I get back to one of my computers.

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    Re: Waves my Friend 2016/03/15 11:24:36 (permalink)
    It sounds like a great start. Like many of the other comments, I'd love to hear those drums get replaced with a fuller sound. I switched to the new mix half way through and the mix definitely improved :-) I love the overall vibe of the track. Very cool. Also maybe switch up the lead instrument from that synth sound at some point, introduce a totally different lead sound for a while and then go back to it. Something like that.

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    Re: Waves my Friend 2016/03/15 15:46:59 (permalink)
    I agree with many of the comments, but especially-
     
    >The mix is a bit narrow. You have strings at the edges, but everything else sounds pretty centered.
    >As Polarbear says, switching the lead instrument a couple times would help make this tune more interesting.
    >More dynamic contrast. Right now it is very flat.

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    Re: Waves my Friend 2016/03/15 18:21:52 (permalink)
    Good blend of sounds here. As some has said, the drums sounds muffled. I think the melodies are nice. It gets a little too crazy at 0:50, I would change the background harmony to something that fits the melody better.

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    Re: Waves my Friend 2016/03/15 21:50:34 (permalink)
    Definitely at great start. It does get to be a bit monotonous with programmed drums and bass.  Seems to need something to break it up a bit or mix it up. A change of instrumentation could help. Work on some of the dynamics  in your phrasing would really go a long way.  The melodies are nice but they tend to meander without a clear direction without (a song) structure.  Pad tones are really cool, BTW.

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    Re: Waves my Friend 2016/03/16 15:35:37 (permalink)
    Nice. Your mixing skills will get better the more you mix. 
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    Re: Waves my Friend 2016/03/17 08:21:45 (permalink)
    Thank you all for the nice comments and good tips! I found out that putting on good sounding dynamics was more difficult than i thought it would be. And more work than I thought. Also improving the mix feels very difficult. I also made a new tune which I am going to concentrate on, as I feel this tune is not worth the work it feels I would have to invest on at the moment. I try to use your tips on my new tune but although I have done this music writing relatively long I still have trouble doing the simplest things (I mean the things you probably already find simple, like the dynamics thing). I am however grateful although I am leaving this tune half ready for now. Sorry if I let you down (not the first time I am afraid). If I have the time however I will also try to improve this tune, even though I have not too much to use.

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    Re: Waves my Friend 2016/03/17 11:38:19 (permalink)
    Trip the pop wave fantastic a non-offensive yet synthy good song....great job! - S

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    Re: Waves my Friend 2016/03/17 12:04:28 (permalink)
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    Trip the pop wave fantastic a non-offensive yet synthy good song....great job! - S

    Thank you, Shawn.

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