Channel Input Gain Pot

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Johnbee58
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2016/03/17 16:38:46 (permalink)

Channel Input Gain Pot

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X3 Studio user here.  I notice that every channel in Sonar has an input gain pot on top.  Is this to adjust the volume of the signal coming in from a microphone?  If so, for some reason, it doesn't work on mine.  Is there a hidden step I need to do this?  On mine the input level of the mic can only be adjusted by the interface setting.  I'd rather be able to use the input level control in the DAW so I don't have to constantly tweak the input gain on the hardware.  I'd like to just max the interface and adjust the level on the DAW.  How can I do this?
Also, I've seen on videos that the Pro Channel EQ can be expanded.  Is this possible only on Producer, or can I do this in Studio too?
 
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    scook
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    Re: Channel Input Gain Pot 2016/03/17 16:44:41 (permalink)
    The only way to reduce the incoming signal is the audio interface. The input gain in SONAR affects the track level just after the recorded clips. See the signal flow diagram http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR%20X3&language=3&help=Mixing.07.html
     
    The flyout EQ is only available in X3 Producer and Platinum.
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    Re: Channel Input Gain Pot 2016/03/17 17:48:43 (permalink)
    Not what I wanted to hear, but I appreciate your enlightening me.
     
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    Re: Channel Input Gain Pot 2016/03/17 19:12:19 (permalink)
    Bear in mind that when tracking SONAR is just showing you what is being written to the disk. You very much DO want to control gain at the hardware, because clipping it there destroys it permanently. Lowering gain after it has been clipped won't recover it.

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    Re: Channel Input Gain Pot 2016/03/17 21:15:02 (permalink)
    mettelus
    Bear in mind that when tracking SONAR is just showing you what is being written to the disk. You very much DO want to control gain at the hardware, because clipping it there destroys it permanently. Lowering gain after it has been clipped won't recover it.

    Best advice ever!
     
    Its important to keep you faders and gain at unity for accurate readings while recording. When mixing you can adjust the levels to your hearts content.  

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    Re: Channel Input Gain Pot 2016/03/18 14:26:20 (permalink)
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    The only way to reduce the incoming signal is the audio interface. The input gain in SONAR affects the track level just after the recorded clips.

     
    To which I would add "but before the effects." So the input gain can adjust the amount of drive in amp sims, how hard you "slam" a compressor, etc.
     

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    Re: Channel Input Gain Pot 2016/03/18 21:26:22 (permalink)
    Thanks all.  My interface is a Pod Studio UX2 and the input gain has arbitrary notches that don't "click".  That's why it's so difficult for me to know what my exact input level is.
     
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