Saving project causes dropouts / plugins destroying saves orNewburyport save not the best!

I guess no one else has experienced this, but I did after doing an update that apparently reset the cache settings to the default. When I got the toast notification that a dropout occurred, I clicked on the Help button and went through each step until I tried the cache tip, and that solved the problem.
 
It seems cache settings are very particular to particular computers and setups, there's no "rule" like "bigger is always better" or "use the smallest value possible" or whatever. You just have to play around with the settings.
 
Also check whether the waveform itself has gaps that indicate corruption, otherwise the issue is likely playback-related only.
 
Not guaranteeing any of this will solve your particular issue, but I'd definitely try clicking on Help when the Toast dropout notification pops up and go through the various suggested remedies.
 
 

Hi Brundlefly

It's the saved project file that is corrupted - if I open it with latency mon running there is a drop out every 30 secs constant - however latency mon all green and low - pc resource monitor no spikes nothing ( normally on a drop out these 2 programs show what you are explaing spikes , red bars etc etc , but this is not happening because these particular saved corrupted projects are fu@$ed to the point where they constantly show a drop out that is being caused from when the project saves itself !

If I open another previous project 1 hour earlier and hit play latency mon and pc monitor are exactly the same all green and happy and no drop outs what so ever - it's happening in the saving procedure -

Now I do want to add my thoughts on the possible causes

1) after all the bare bones stripping win 10 back last night I noticed in bios Intel speed step / when I turn this off it cpu is steady at 2.7 , if I switch it on again ( which I have done for now to test the Manchester roll back saving - then the pc goes between 2.7 and 4.2 MHz frequently !

2) I have auto save on every half hour - I use sonitus DX plugins -gate - compressor and I side chain and gate away - a couple of times I have been experimenting with routing to these back and forth I have had audio disappear ! So I'm not sure but I am considering the possibility that these plugins maybe involved ? Can anyone comment on sonitus and Dx versions please .

3 ) this has never happened in any previous update from sonar and I have updated as they come in , my pc had win 10 running with everything and anything and everything and it just worked baby worked -? Soon as I updated newbury port first day drop out - and most days after that the occasional drop out , it got to the point where I was running around stripping my computer back while latency mon Is telling me I don't have to - then I opened the last auto save of my project and I was stuck with constant drop outs all the way through the optimise until I simply opened a previous save and noticed latency was actually right - that previous project worked without a single drop out ( yes with Newbury port playback no problemo , anyways I went back through a lot of saved projects and there are quite a few unusable saved projects all doing the same thing , so more importantly I need to know exactly why this has happened and all I can do is keep all my of settings bare bone and roll back as of yesterday to Manchester and watch over a couple of days if the manual or auto saves are corrupted - if not then I know it's Newburyport - if so then I will switch off speed step and try another couple days and monitor the saves - if that still doesn't work I will switch off all side chaining and gating and if that's not it then I don't know what to do next . Wish me luck because I am confident that I will figure this . You know if it has anything to do with speed step or the ( gating routing which has all been done in Newbury port only - which is why I am curious to see how Manchester handles this ) it still should not corrupt a saved project file to the point where it constantly drops out and yet Windows is not skipping a heartbeat when this happens ?

Thanks

Hi Anderson I am wondering if your talking about sync and caching ? If so how exactly do you reset !

Thanks

Ok it's defiantly not Newbury port , the saved projects from Manchester also dropping out - I have completely reinstalled platinum and turned off speed step and had no drop outs , hopefully this is the fix because I am ready for a new pc (:

Hi kalle,

Definitely not a unregistered plugin though I know what you mean when one does have one in a project and it cuts audio out .

I am thinking the first thing I should have done was a full reinstall of sonar( I did reinstall first but I didn't manually delete cakewalk folder under users ) , I have rolled forward to Newbury port , turned of speed step and did a full reinstall , used it all day today and it ran great , so hopefully it does all next week tooooooooooo.

Hi Anderton

Thanks will disable everything there except rme, very nice tips you have there I am going to explore every one of them ,as for the reinstall of sonar the reason I did it first when all this started to happen was because I was on a project doing gating and side chaining , I had about 5 gates and 6 compressors opened on another screen , then all of my screens went black , and then fuzzy and then when it came back platinum was in trouble , none of the buttons in each track were recognisable e.g the solo button was this square with lines in it , same with mostly everything else , I called my wife over and showed her and said something like never seen this wobbly before , that was a Friday a week or 2 ago , and the following Monday I just reinstalled Newbury port over the top of the current installation , from there it's been hell , something on that day either within Windows or sonar failed big time and I have really exausted myself with this because nothing else inside Windows since then has shown any signs of anything wrong , so today is Sunday I am running scans virus scans , and if by next Friday this problem is not fixed then Iam reinstalling Windows and everything else , so Iam am really really hoping that it works next week because I don't want to spend a week reinstalling all my plugins etc

Hi Anderton ,

I just used amd auto detect and my system already has latest drivers installed !

I have just down loaded win 10 usb flash drive ): I am reluctantly considering repairing win 10 also ! I am opening up my latest saved project and loopback play all day if there is one drop out I am reinstalling win ! Everything worked before that major wobbly and I just want things back to that state.

Do you think a clean install or a repair will refresh all the win files ?

Thanks

Just wondering...did you ever try all the suggestions in Help from the Toast notification about eliminating dropouts? And did you ever find out why DPC was spiking? That almost always means some add-on like wi-fi or a driver is problematic, not Windows or SONAR.
 
Before doing anything radical, go into Device Manager and turn off anything you don't absolutely need. Also pare down anything that starts up automatically (you really don't need iTunes helper, honest you don't). See what happens.
 

ok back so to continue , So thank you Anderton  as i said you were correct and indeed i know have new updated anmd crimson drivers (:, i am wondering if this will fix the problem .
 
The latest driver in device manager after that restart is now 15,301.1901.0 , i have checked the driver files and all of both cards are digitally signed and there was no warning like the previous catalyst install which is nice .
 
on another note during the restart i just had a message pop up saying
 
the exception breakpoint
0x80000003
0x00000000651CED3B
Plugin Container.exe application error a breakpoint has been reached ??? this message has poped up many times in the past also , not sure what it is but its time to sort it out ! Any ideas ?

Sanderxpander
Google says it's a Mozilla Firefox file. You could try switching browsers or if you don't need plugins in FF you can disable it (check YT).

Good catch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV8g8lm1kIU
 
this is something new to me that is extremely nice ,

Thanks Kevinwal , when I opened win 10 performance monitor and selected dpc rate and dpc time they were very consistent with latency mon so thanks for confirming my thoughts .

Anyways I did a update last night I loaded a usb flash drive with win 10 on it , I then repaired Windows keeping all my programs and it reset Windows completely , along with Andertons AMD driver update I knew this morning as soon as I fired up the pc that the problem was gone , the gritty on the edge feeling in my ears that it's going to drop out any second , every second was no longer there , I have been using it all day for the first time in 2 weeks without a single drop out , I know this is fixed I can tell how smooth it runs in my ears ,so hopefully I'm right .

Thanks everyone I am thinking it was the amd drivers so thanks mr Anderton again .

I will post if the problem pops up but I am sure it's gone like I said I can hear it's gone ,

Regards