Jae
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Looking for Grand piano VST for Sonar X3
I need a grand piano VST for Sonar X3. I don't suppose there's a good free one out there? I don't need a hole bunch of VST's but I would like to be able to get one if I need it.
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Bristol_Jonesey
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Re: Looking for Grand piano VST for Sonar X3
2016/03/28 11:14:39
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True Pianos is bundled with X3. It's quite capable albeit it's a cut down of the full product - you only get the Amber module
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Re: Looking for Grand piano VST for Sonar X3
2016/03/28 11:19:33
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Hi Jae. You are spoiled for choice now days as there are many great piano VST''s. The downside is that some of them are huge processor hogs. My goto at the moment is The Giant for Kontakt. Not too resource hungry and pretty versatile. You do not need to own the full version of Kontakt to use it as it ships with the free Kontakt player. http://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/komplete/keys/the-giant/ I don't know much about free options but I am sure someone here will. I think x3 ships with a version of True Pianos, which is probably the best that is included with Sonar, but not what you would call great IMHO. EDIT - I see Jonesey has mentioned True Pianos above as I was typing this post, so it is certainly included!
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Re: Looking for Grand piano VST for Sonar X3
2016/03/28 12:04:47
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For a free/donationware grand, take a look a Piano in 162 by Ivy Audio. http://ivyaudio.com/Piano-in-162 If you don't have the full Kontakt, you can use the SFZ version. This is a BIG library, almost 6 GB. Samples taken from a Steinway Model B.
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Re: Looking for Grand piano VST for Sonar X3
2016/03/28 12:22:41
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If this is a question about the entry level version of X3. I believe the only pianos bundled with it are in Cakewalk Sound Center. To play the sfz version of the piano mentioned above pick up sforzando.
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Re: Looking for Grand piano VST for Sonar X3
2016/03/28 13:42:26
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If you want a good piano and use it in sonar look to xln audio.I think they have the best one in pianosound
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Re: Looking for Grand piano VST for Sonar X3
2016/03/28 16:58:07
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I don't think free options will get you any better than TruePianos.
My personal wishlist contains Ivory 2 and PianoTeq (5). Depends a bit on what kind of use you need them for. For background duties in bandmixes TruePianos may be good enough. I believe Ivory is something of an "industry standard" but it's pricey and huge. PianoTeq uses modeling instead of samples but that makes it really "alive". I've gotten really good results from that for ballad style playing.
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Re: Looking for Grand piano VST for Sonar X3
2016/03/28 17:01:29
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Hi. In the newer versions of SONAR, you (at least I did  ) get a Demo version of Addictive Keys, which is (in my opinion) are quite good. There is also some free ones besides what has been offered. All the e best.
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Re: Looking for Grand piano VST for Sonar X3
2016/03/28 17:17:41
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Some paid pianos are marginally better than Truepianos, some not even that. The one I found most useful and full of character apart from Truepianos is EZkeyes grand.
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Re: Looking for Grand piano VST for Sonar X3
2016/03/28 17:44:12
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Zargg71 Hi. In the newer versions of SONAR, you (at least I did ) get a Demo version of Addictive Keys, which is (in my opinion) are quite good. There is also some free ones besides what has been offered. All the e best.
I have Addictive Keys (and all 4 AKpaks) and was just playing the grand this morning, followed by AAS' Lounge Lizard (Riders On The Storm patch). I was doing a test to reverify a feeling I had after posting in this thread: http://forum.cakewalk.com/Imperfect-Samples-Pianos-Half-Price-m3391575.aspx and yup, I prefer playing modeled velocity-sensitive instruments vs. sampled ones. The AK Grand feels like its got only 3-4 velocity levels. LL responds beautifully to the weight of the key press. I can't wait to play Sound Magic's Fazioli Rose VI. It'll be here Wednesday ($99 in a box via Amazon; $169 online). The problem with many free and paid sampled VIs is the lack of richness (number and quality) of the samples and the poor quality of the sampling and sample-creating processes. They can be great starters and can often sound pretty good. But the limitations can start to drive you nuts after awhile. And back to sample-based VIs...there are quite a few that are fantastic...and expensive...and BIG. I read a post on here recently where the poster had NINE 2 TB hard drives for samples. Holy crapola! Good modeled VIs are small, load fast and change between presets fast. I have all of AAS' VIs except Tassman. Just a joy to play. If I enjoy playing the Fazioli Rose as much as I hope to, I'm going to have to get their (Bösendorfer) Imperial Grand.
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Re: Looking for Grand piano VST for Sonar X3
2016/03/28 17:48:47
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One thing about having a tin ear, I save a boatload of money. I like TruePianos. Sounds like a piano to me.
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Re: Looking for Grand piano VST for Sonar X3
2016/03/28 18:33:35
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TheMaartian and yup, I prefer playing modeled velocity-sensitive instruments vs. sampled ones.
We may be in a minority but I agree. Whether the sound is EXACTLY the same or not matters less to me than the potential for expressiveness. I haven't used a sampled Rhodes sound since Lounge Lizard came out.
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Re: Looking for Grand piano VST for Sonar X3
2016/03/28 21:37:37
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I do not think you can beat Synthogy's Ivory series. Their American Steinway is pretty affordable since it just comes with one piano (as opposed to the three piano Ivory II Grands which is what I have). Free is nice, but if you use a lot of piano, you will not regret this purchase.
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Re: Looking for Grand piano VST for Sonar X3
2016/03/29 03:19:20
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I don't mean to call seniority here, a lot of it is personal taste, but as a full time professional pianist I agree that Ivory is excellent and easily better than 99 percent of other stuff (of which I have a lot, including Addictive Keys and NI Komplete Ultimate). PianoTeq is worth checking out too though. It's different but can sound really alive.
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tenfoot
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Re: Looking for Grand piano VST for Sonar X3
2016/03/29 05:11:44
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Sanderxpander I don't mean to call seniority here, a lot of it is personal taste, but as a full time professional pianist I agree that Ivory is excellent and easily better than 99 percent of other stuff (of which I have a lot, including Addictive Keys and NI Komplete Ultimate). PianoTeq is worth checking out too though. It's different but can sound really alive.
Ivory is most certainly excellent - but it's freakin' huge and hungry too:)
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Bristol_Jonesey
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Re: Looking for Grand piano VST for Sonar X3
2016/03/29 05:39:29
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kevinwal One thing about having a tin ear, I save a boatload of money. I like TruePianos. Sounds like a piano to me. 
Hah ha!! Agree completely
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Re: Looking for Grand piano VST for Sonar X3
2016/03/29 05:58:19
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will sell my full edition of Truepianos for £20! Redundant since using EWQL pianos which is a monster of a library!
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Re: Looking for Grand piano VST for Sonar X3
2016/03/29 06:47:02
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Pianos are my bread and butter, and I agree with those that are saying True Pianos is a good choice. They have a great modelled sound, and the hit on your CPU is so low you could host a piano quintet without breaking a sweat. However, I do think to get the best 'Grand Piano' sound from TP you will have to pay for the Atlantis module. (hint: it's worth it). Whenever I am starting to write or record a piece, I almost always use True Pianos, and often never bother switching to another instrument. This is a great sounding piece of software and I think Sonar is a much better piece of software from having this program in it. If you are looking for an good all round Grand Piano sound for free, look no further than the pianos installed with Dimension Pro (or Rapture Session now). They are not necessarily the best out there, but if mixed with other instruments as part of a band, the sound is more than passable. (and they're free!) I will add that if I want a true piano sound I will mic up the acoustic piano. There is no comparison as far as I'm concerned, I've yet to hear a model or sample that comes close when compared side by side to a real acoustic piano. I will then add, that the wording here is important. You notice I wrote "when compared side by side". That's because sometimes it is almost impossible to tell just by listening to a piece on it's own, whether it's a real piano or a software one when played and mixed well.
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Re: Looking for Grand piano VST for Sonar X3
2016/03/29 06:49:53
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Elffin will sell my full edition of Truepianos for £20! Redundant since using EWQL pianos which is a monster of a library!
I just sent you a PM
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