SONAR and Continuous Controller Automation

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SONAR and Continuous Controller Automation

Hi Everyone,
 
I'm a SONAR newbie, but have been involved with computer music and MIDI since the mid-nineties. Cakewalk and Cubase were the first sequencers I used, back on Windows 3.1.
 
I recently purchased SONAR Artist, and coming from Cubase on Windows I can say it's a welcome change.
 
I use a lot of hardware synths and workstations, mainly because I enjoy the tactility and immediacy of them. However, there's one thing I've always struggled with when using them with a DAW - automation of controllers.
 
The problem I find is, although I can record the movement of any controllers into a sequencer track, the initial values are often wrong and difficult to restore. Say I start recording my track, and I increase the filter cutoff halfway through the track from 64 to 127. When I get to the end of the track, the filter cutoff remains fixed at 127. If I return to zero, the filter cutoff is still at 127, then halfway through the track it jumps abruptly down to 64 again.
 
Now, there's a few ways I've found to deal with this: one is to press record in SONAR, then move all the knobs to their initial starting position - but this means that you have to know in advance which controllers you're going to use in your performance ahead of time. The second is to retrospectively go through and manually enter in starting controller values for each CC that's manipulated in the performance, but if you've manipulated a dozen difference controllers across a few tracks, this seems to be a time consuming task.
 
Is there an easier way of doing what I am trying to do, or can the process of entering starting controller values for all CCs be sped-up somehow?
 
It's always seemed to me that it would be good to have a standard function on MIDI hardware to dump the current state of all controllers, to mitigate this sort of problem.
 
So, how do people work with controllers and hardware in their setups? I'd be very grateful for any tips people would be willing to share.
 
 
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    Anderton
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    Re: SONAR and Continuous Controller Automation 2016/04/05 01:26:38 (permalink)
    Check out the tip for Week 22, "Re-Discovering Snapshot Automation," in Friday's Tip of the Week. Hopefully that will make it pretty easy to set up starting values for your controllers. Also remember that a parameter receiving a controller will retain that controller value until it's given a new value (although they're called "continuous" controllers, they're really discrete points).
     
    SONAR Professional and Platinum have three different automation modes (touch, latch, and overwrite); if you upgrade someday, you'll want to check those out.

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    Re: SONAR and Continuous Controller Automation 2016/04/05 02:32:48 (permalink)
    Thanks very much for the reply, Anderton: that list of tips is a veritable treasure trove of ideas!
     
    How does Snapshot Automation work with hardware synths though? I think I can see how it would work for soft synths, but for hardware there's no "parameter control" to right click. For hardware, would the workflow involve creating an automation lane for the CC, then assigning the hardware controller to that automation lane and recording automation/creating snapshots?
     
    Sorry if I've missed something - I've literally been using SONAR for a week!
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    Re: SONAR and Continuous Controller Automation 2016/04/05 11:51:35 (permalink)
    An Unmarked Place
    Thanks very much for the reply, Anderton: that list of tips is a veritable treasure trove of ideas!
     
    How does Snapshot Automation work with hardware synths though? I think I can see how it would work for soft synths, but for hardware there's no "parameter control" to right click. For hardware, would the workflow involve creating an automation lane for the CC, then assigning the hardware controller to that automation lane and recording automation/creating snapshots?

     
    Yes, but not all instruments allowing assigning controller numbers for parameters, so you may need to look in the manual to find out what automation controls what synth parameter, then change the automation lane accordingly to generate that particular controller.
     
    Sorry if I've missed something - I've literally been using SONAR for a week!

     
    Well you're doing pretty good for a week 

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