John T
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[Solved] Gain knob on cloned track
Just noticed a reproducible oddity. Create an audio track. Change the gain setting, say to -5db. Clone the track, making sure you choose to clone all properties. The new track replicates the old exactly, with pan, fader, sends, whatever else. However, the gain knob on the new track is back at zero. Even odder, the actual gain setting does seem to be replicated, just not displayed. Turning the gain knob gets the display and the actual gain back in sync. Note that this all turns out the same whether you use the inspector / console knob, or the track view slider.
post edited by Seth Kellogg [Cakewalk] - October 10, 17 7:34 PM
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Re: Gain knob on cloned track
April 11, 16 10:58 AM
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Re: Gain knob on cloned track
April 11, 16 3:11 PM
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I can confirm that gain settings are not being replicated when a track is cloned. SONAR Platinum Version 22.3.0 BUILD 71 [2016.03] - x64 Gain settings are also not saved in Track Templates. IIRC this has already been posted in Problem Reports. Best, Klaus
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Re: Gain knob on cloned track
April 11, 16 11:35 PM
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Klaus Gain settings are also not saved in Track Templates.
Track templates do need an overhaul ... just realized the other day that bus output to (sub)outputs of the audio card are not preserved (which would qualify as bug) and, of course, colours (the oldest of all feature requests since templates got introduced) need to be saved ... and the option to save/import for buses only (without requiring a dummy track)
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Re: Gain knob on cloned track
November 14, 16 2:03 AM
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John T Just noticed a reproducible oddity. Create an audio track. Change the gain setting, say to -5db. Clone the track, making sure you choose to clone all properties. The new track replicates the old exactly, with pan, fader, sends, whatever else. However, the gain knob on the new track is back at zero. Even odder, the actual gain setting does seem to be replicated, just not displayed. Turning the gain knob gets the display and the actual gain back in sync. Note that this all turns out the same whether you use the inspector / console knob, or the track view slider.
This never was resolved. Problem still exists Anyone?
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IanPritchett
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Re: Gain knob on cloned track
March 30, 17 0:14 PM
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Re: Gain knob on cloned track
April 05, 17 7:55 PM
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I confirm the issue still persists. Latest Platinum installed.
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Re: Gain knob on cloned track
April 28, 17 0:26 PM
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Another update.. Problem still exists.. Frustrating... Cubase is calling
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Re: Gain knob on cloned track
June 25, 17 1:26 PM
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Another update. Problem still exists
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Re: Gain knob on cloned track
July 01, 17 0:51 PM
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Another update. Problem still exists. How about some feedback on why not?
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Re: Gain knob on cloned track
July 08, 17 7:09 AM
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Just noticed that gain settings are not retained on track templates either... Hardly a template then is it?? Annoying AF
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IanPritchett
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Re: Gain knob on cloned track
August 03, 17 11:09 PM
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Issue still exist 2017.07
How long can this go on???
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Re: Gain knob on cloned track
August 04, 17 5:28 PM
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For a "how long can this go on" comment, those comments should only come from those with an 18 month or two year history. 😉
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IanPritchett
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Re: Gain knob on cloned track
August 05, 17 7:12 AM
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Got a lot of history. Been using cakewalk for over 20 years. Only started posting on forums a while ago when the bugs got to me.
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Re: Gain knob on cloned track
September 11, 17 0:11 PM
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Issue still exists 2017.08.
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Re: Gain knob on cloned track
September 11, 17 0:26 PM
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I'm not generally one to become impatient about long-standing bugs; I understand that there are priorities, and my issues might not be everyone else's. But this is a daily pain for me, and I'd be astonished if the fix wasn't a trivial one. So I sympathise with Ian here.
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John T
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Re: Gain knob on cloned track
October 03, 17 11:58 AM
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It's fixed! (in the early release of 2017.9)
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Re: Gain knob on cloned track
October 09, 17 9:05 AM
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YES! SO HAPPY THAT THIS IS FIXED.
THANKS.
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