craigb
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Are Black Metal and Surf Rock secretly identical?
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Re: Are Black Metal and Surf Rock secretly identical?
2016/04/12 09:21:53
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I don't know... can you hum a few bars?
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craigb
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Re: Are Black Metal and Surf Rock secretly identical?
2016/04/12 10:46:15
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No, but I might be able to hit a few! 
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Re: Are Black Metal and Surf Rock secretly identical?
2016/04/12 11:10:49
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Dude is reeeeeally reaching to make that comparison and doesn't seem to know a whole lot about music fundamentals. He chose some unusually dark surf that used some of the darker modes to make the connection when in reality most "surf" music doesn't do that.
Black Metal, as I've learned this year due to working with my Norwegian buddy Jarvse, is more defined by big full chords being picked extremely fast to get that thick, mushy, tonally complex rhythm sound whereas Surf is more defined by single note melody licks accented with quirky "raked" chords. So the theory that simply taking the distortion away doesn't fly.
Mid career Metallica (pre Black album) has more in common with Surf than Black metal and even that's a stretch.
A lot of early Hardcore Punk on the other hand has buttloads in common with Surf but that makes sense because of the surfer to skater evolution... particularly with the west coast bands.
East Bay Ray was definitely Surf inspired and Agent Orange even did Surf covers.
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Re: Are Black Metal and Surf Rock secretly identical?
2016/04/12 11:13:15
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i think you can find "dark" in any genre, genres are rubbish
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Re: Are Black Metal and Surf Rock secretly identical?
2016/04/12 11:13:42
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 All else is in doubt, so this is the truth I cling to. My Stuff
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Re: Are Black Metal and Surf Rock secretly identical?
2016/04/12 12:33:39
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☄ Helpfulby SteveStrummerUK 2016/04/12 14:11:29
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Re: Are Black Metal and Surf Rock secretly identical?
2016/04/12 12:54:02
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jamesg1213
What utter bollocks.
My mayte Jaymes calls me out even before I post. Well Done.
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Re: Are Black Metal and Surf Rock secretly identical?
2016/04/12 12:58:51
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craigb
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Re: Are Black Metal and Surf Rock secretly identical?
2016/04/12 13:51:55
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jamesg1213
What utter bollocks.
Well, it IS Utter Bollocks Day you know...
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Re: Are Black Metal and Surf Rock secretly identical?
2016/04/12 13:52:46
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craigb
jamesg1213
What utter bollocks.
Well, it IS Utter Bollocks Day you know...
I'm in with the In Crowd.
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Re: Are Black Metal and Surf Rock secretly identical?
2016/04/12 13:56:50
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2016/04/12 14:12:50
Beepster
Dude is reeeeeally reaching to make that comparison and doesn't seem to know a whole lot about music fundamentals. He chose some unusually dark surf that used some of the darker modes to make the connection when in reality most "surf" music doesn't do that.
Black Metal, as I've learned this year due to working with my Norwegian buddy Jarvse, is more defined by big full chords being picked extremely fast to get that thick, mushy, tonally complex rhythm sound whereas Surf is more defined by single note melody licks accented with quirky "raked" chords. So the theory that simply taking the distortion away doesn't fly.
Mid career Metallica (pre Black album) has more in common with Surf than Black metal and even that's a stretch.
A lot of early Hardcore Punk on the other hand has buttloads in common with Surf but that makes sense because of the surfer to skater evolution... particularly with the west coast bands.
East Bay Ray was definitely Surf inspired and Agent Orange even did Surf covers.
So, 'no' then Beep 
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Re: Are Black Metal and Surf Rock secretly identical?
2016/04/12 13:56:50
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2016/04/12 14:12:55
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Re: Are Black Metal and Surf Rock secretly identical?
2016/04/12 14:01:06
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Pfft....
They're about as alike as the Baputonic Scale and the Am note.
Er..... I think.
Arse.
Kittenz.
Penis.
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Re: Are Black Metal and Surf Rock secretly identical?
2016/04/12 14:01:11
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I've always thought that Napalm Death were heavily influenced by Paper Lace, and that Paul Nicholas knew far more about reggae than Bob Marley ever did.
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bapu
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Re: Are Black Metal and Surf Rock secretly identical?
2016/04/12 14:07:12
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☄ Helpfulby jamesg1213 2016/04/12 14:24:25
Where's Jack Brittledick in all this bollocks?
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Re: Are Black Metal and Surf Rock secretly identical?
2016/04/12 14:10:02
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2016/04/12 14:25:52
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Where's Jack Brittledick in all this bollocks?
He'll be Carmen round the mountain when he Carms.
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bapu
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Re: Are Black Metal and Surf Rock secretly identical?
2016/04/12 14:11:15
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☄ Helpfulby jamesg1213 2016/04/12 14:30:39
Sum juan has 3000 LPs to prove or disprove this theory, roight?
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craigb
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Re: Are Black Metal and Surf Rock secretly identical?
2016/04/12 14:11:46
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SteveStrummerUK
Pfft....
They're about as alike as the Baputonic Scale and the Am note.
Er..... I think.
Arse.
Kittenz.
Penis.
That last part is kinda small, isn't it? 
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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Re: Are Black Metal and Surf Rock secretly identical?
2016/04/12 14:13:18
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2016/04/12 14:29:16
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Sum juan has 3000 LPs to prove or disprove this theory, roight?
..and/or 40,000 books. Selling encyclopedias door to door can be tough, especially if they're on sale or return.
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bapu
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Re: Are Black Metal and Surf Rock secretly identical?
2016/04/12 14:14:07
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craigb
SteveStrummerUK
Pfft....
They're about as alike as the Baputonic Scale and the Am note.
Er..... I think.
Arse.
Kittenz.
Penis.
That last part is kinda small, isn't it?
And it's kind of sad (blue) too.
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craigb
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Re: Are Black Metal and Surf Rock secretly identical?
2016/04/12 14:15:56
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2016/04/12 14:32:02
Well, it's probably cold in Worcester...
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Re: Are Black Metal and Surf Rock secretly identical?
2016/04/12 14:17:29
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Re: Are Black Metal and Surf Rock secretly identical?
2016/04/12 14:51:37
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☄ Helpfulby SteveStrummerUK 2016/04/12 16:17:21
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So, 'no' then Beep
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Re: Are Black Metal and Surf Rock secretly identical?
2016/04/12 14:53:40
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There's a cat in that picture?
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Re: Are Black Metal and Surf Rock secretly identical?
2016/04/12 15:10:04
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In Soviet Russia becan eats cat.
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Re: Are Black Metal and Surf Rock secretly identical?
2016/04/12 16:02:35
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Stop making fun of my tiny blue penis 
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Re: Are Black Metal and Surf Rock secretly identical?
2016/04/15 09:10:38
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bapu
Sum juan has 3000 LPs to prove or disprove this theory, roight?
..and/or 40,000 books.
...
Good thing that's not me/mine. For the record, my father's library is now in Lisbon thanks to a something or other, but it's all in crates and will remain so for 300 years. They won't even bother cataloging it. Knowledge for you! You must love it! You can imagine what will happen any LP library! As for meaning: NP: The But____e Surfers
Music is not about notes and chords! My poem is not about the computer or monitor or letters! It's about how I was able to translate it from my insides!
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