Resonant Serpent
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Question about Latencymon and Hard Page Faults
I've been running Latencymon the last couple of hours. All of my stats are in the low greens, except for hard page faults which are in the red. Latencymon is telling me that my system is fine for audio. I did some research, but there's really not much out there about Windows 10 and page faults. Some sources even say that soft page faults are counted the same as hard page faults. Stats showed 4912 hard page faults in a two hour period.
Anyone else have this? I'm not ready to call it a problem, yet. Sonar and Reaper seem to run great, but I'm having a ton of trouble in Cubase and Studio one.
Do any of you adjust your page file in your daw? Or, even get rid of it?
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dcumpian
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Re: Question about Latencymon and Hard Page Faults
2016/05/10 08:16:28
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That number isn't terribly high for 2 hours. Many antivirus utilities can cause page faults when scanning in the background. Can you trace the faults to a particular application?
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Re: Question about Latencymon and Hard Page Faults
2016/05/10 14:05:18
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You might take a look at how much memory is allocated by Windows as 'Hardware Reserved'.
I have 32 GB of memory, but after noticing a lot of hard page faults, I went and looked and found that Windows went NUTS and set literally HALF of my total memory to be hardware reserved, so out of the 32 GB of installed RAM, I could only actually get at a little bit less than 16 GB.
(I did some searching, and found a Registry edit that resulted in my recovering nearly all of that reserved memory - IF you need/want more info on that please post back on that and I will dig up the thread I posted in the forums about it. I have to run out the door for the next 5-6 hours).
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Re: Question about Latencymon and Hard Page Faults
2016/05/10 19:46:44
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I decided to ignore these utilities and run real world projects.
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Resonant Serpent
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Re: Question about Latencymon and Hard Page Faults
2016/05/11 22:16:09
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Thanks for the responses. I'm not having problems, but just wanted to be sure.
Robert, if you could look up that information, I would appreciate it.
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Sycraft
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Re: Question about Latencymon and Hard Page Faults
2016/05/11 22:56:14
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☄ Helpfulby mettelus 2016/05/13 02:22:05
Don't worry about page faults really. Windows likes to page stuff out, even if you have loads of memory. While in theory it could cause a problem, it is pretty good about what it chooses to page. Overall the OS has pretty high end memory management. So in general, it is fine to just let it do its thing. If you don't notice any issues, then don't worry.
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Re: Question about Latencymon and Hard Page Faults
2016/05/12 00:29:18
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Sycraft
Don't worry about page faults really. Windows likes to page stuff out, even if you have loads of memory. While in theory it could cause a problem, it is pretty good about what it chooses to page. Overall the OS has pretty high end memory management. So in general, it is fine to just let it do its thing. If you don't notice any issues, then don't worry.
I had to laugh the first time I ran LatencyMon on my new system. A hard page fault caused the program to conclude that my system was incapable of handling real-time audio. The faulting app was... LatencyMon itself. I quit the program and re ran it for 30 minutes without issue.
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Resonant Serpent
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Re: Question about Latencymon and Hard Page Faults
2016/05/12 22:39:17
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Yep. That's why I ask. I have 16 gigs of ram, so I don't think it'll be a problem.
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mettelus
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Re: Question about Latencymon and Hard Page Faults
2016/05/13 02:10:52
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IIRC, the hard page faults is the bottom bar in LatencyMon and only takes several page faults to go red (and it is a cumulative number). That particular number doesn't seem to be relevant in most cases (if you open a web browser that will go red in pretty short order).
The top 4 bars of LatencyMon are the ones to investigate if they go red on you.
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