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2016/05/14 11:02:53 (permalink)

HDD Price comparison

             1TB    2TB    3TB    4TB    5TB    6TB    7TB    8TB
WD BLACK     73.38  121.39 148.69 195.99 219.99 289.89
Per TB       73.38   60.70  49.56  48.99  43.99  48.31
WD BLUE      53.83   76.99  89.99 114.99 177.95 204.99
Per TB       53.83   38.49  29.99  28.74  35.59  34.16
WD GREEN     78.39  116.29 139.89 257.89 376.39 428.89
Per TB       78.39   58.14  46.63  64.47  75.27  71.48
WD PURPLE    59.71   84.99 106.99 147.55 211.98 259.99 nil    330.99
Per TB       59.71   42.49  35.66  36.88  42.39  43.33         41.37
WD RED       60.99   89.99 114.99 149.99 194.99 233.99 nil    339.77
Per TB       60.99   44.99  38.33  37.49  38.99  38.99         42.47
 
             1TB    2TB    3TB    4TB    5TB    6TB    7TB    8TB
SEAGATE  
DeskTop      51.99  63.95  89.85  119.95 198.99  214.99 nil   299.99
Per TB       51.99  31.97  29.95   29.98  39.79   35.83        37.49
SEAGATE NAS  64.99  81.99 104.99  139.99 nil     240.99 nil   348.99
Per TB       64.99  40.99  34.99   34.99          40.16        43.62
SEAGATE ARC  nil     nil   nil    nil    181.89 nil    nil    239.99
Per TB                                    36.37                29.99
 
             1TB    2TB    3TB    4TB    5TB    6TB    7TB    8TB
TOSHIBA
DeskTop      49.50  69.50  89.50  nil    nil
Per TB       49.50  34.75  29.83
TOSHIBA X300 nil    nil    nil    149.99 152.99
Per TB                             37.49  30.59
TOSHIBA Green 50.99 76.99
Per TB        50.99 38.49
 
*Current Newegg price with some on discount
I'm compiling info on price / TB, hopefully this is useful for others as well.
 
 

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Re: HDD Price comparison 2016/05/14 12:18:51 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby tomixornot 2016/05/14 22:22:37
It will probably be useful to someone for a while, but prices are pretty fluid.
 
There is somewhat of an apples vs oranges issue, in that you are listing different types of hard drives, which have quite different design characteristics to make them suitable for particular uses. The "black" version in your list has a dual cache design that is going to be particularly useful in massive data transfer situations, as well as faster speed. The NAS versions are generally designed to be used in fault tolerant arrays in servers, so they limit retries if data is not retrieved the first time, on the assumption that the drive can be faulted and the data retrieved from another drive faster than by re-reading it too many times. The purples are specifically designed to record constant video input from surveillance systems, and are much more error tolerant than typical drives since stopping the drive on error will result in some data loss, and data errors will not be as critical in producing usable images. And of course the green drives are designed to power down, slow or stop, when demand is low to conserve power. 
 
For error free real time audio using a single drive (not in an array) in a dedicated DAW, a standard desktop drive or possibly one of the black drives make sense. Green drives are suitable for backups. I would not use the red or NAS drives except in an array, and I would not use the purple drives at all for any general storage.
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Re: HDD Price comparison 2016/05/14 13:00:30 (permalink)
I usually buy a new hard drive under one of these conditions:
1) I run out of space
2) I see SMART errors that indicate drive may soon fail
3) After 3 or 4 years of usage.
 
The first two are obvious.
The last is because most drives follow the standard life curve where they show more failures after 3-5 years.
And also, after 3-5 years, just about all my hardware is obsolete.
 
All that being said, my next system will have a lot more SSD drives.

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Re: HDD Price comparison 2016/05/14 15:03:12 (permalink)
 Lucky I never had a drive fail in 3-5 years. I had a old Seagate finally go after 8 years.   I've had to RMA WD Blacks within their first 6 months.
 I run Seatools and WD Diagnostics weekly along with Perfect Disk.  
 
They are starting to come out with insane storage sizes in these drives.  I don't think I'd ever want a 6TB drive in my system but would use it for storage using a dock. 

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Re: HDD Price comparison 2016/05/14 21:57:34 (permalink)
I'm looking for storage to move a few of my aging drives (over 10 years!) before they stop operating for good. The new drive shall be placed into a USB3 drive enclosure, backup and put off line. 
 
From the chart, the WD blue 4TB seems lowest cost per TB at the moment.
 
The Seagate Archive 8TB is quite cost effective too, but I've read the READ performance is quite low.

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Re: HDD Price comparison 2016/05/15 10:03:46 (permalink)
I picked up a pair of Toshiba DT01ACA300 drives a few months ago.  I use them in a USB3 dock for backups.  They've been performing quite well.  Less than $100 each.
 
 
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Re: HDD Price comparison 2016/05/15 14:21:04 (permalink)
 I started using a drive dock for my drives.  I decided not to spend anymore money on enclosures. They take up more space than the drives and then use have a whole mess of power supplies for them.

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Re: HDD Price comparison 2016/05/16 23:54:31 (permalink)
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I'm looking for storage to move a few of my aging drives (over 10 years!) before they stop operating for good. The new drive shall be placed into a USB3 drive enclosure, backup and put off line. 
 
From the chart, the WD blue 4TB seems lowest cost per TB at the moment.
 
The Seagate Archive 8TB is quite cost effective too, but I've read the READ performance is quite low.




These Archive types of drives use SMR (Shingled Magnetic Recording) which is not designed for Read/Write applications.
It is only suitable for backups, photos, etc., and makes a poor boot drive.

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Re: HDD Price comparison 2016/05/17 04:12:35 (permalink)
My chart:
 
1990: omfgwtf HOW MUCH?! I could buy Switzerland for that. £1M for 1TB
2016: LOL!1 cheaper than peanuts, roughly 20,000 times cheaper
 
20 thousand.  Times.  Cheaper.  Tell me something else that was available in 1990 that's now 20K times cheaper :-)
 
 
caveat: unfortunately software has become 20 thousand times more bloaty
 
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Re: HDD Price comparison 2016/05/17 12:10:25 (permalink)
My last computer had two Western Digital drives, one green, one black, both 1TB. The black was twice as fast as the green. Definitely worth a few extra bucks for the black's performance.


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Re: HDD Price comparison 2016/05/17 17:54:38 (permalink)
my two Seagate Barracuda 400gb drives that date back to 2008, and i'm not trying to bring on a failure!, 
but these two drives are going strong, with naught but a couple of defrags in all this time...
 
2016-2008 = 8 years old.
 
 

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Re: HDD Price comparison 2016/05/18 14:43:59 (permalink)
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Re: HDD Price comparison 2016/05/20 15:19:36 (permalink)
so what i'm reading, suggests i should just keep my old hard drives!!!
 
if they haven't failed yet.........

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Re: HDD Price comparison 2016/05/22 10:18:55 (permalink)
So... my main HDD (Samsung Spinpoint 1TB ) just crashed ! I'm now re-installing Windows 7 (done, updating other drivers now) onto one of my older Band In A Box portable HDD (it's a Toshiba notebook HDD inside).
 
How it crashed ? - I was copying some MP4s transferred from my handphone into a compressed ZIP folder. Then I was browsing a PDF file in the handphone folder ..and the PC hung and did not respond.. I do the next logical thing.. hard powering the PC off (long press on the ON button).. and upon booting up - there is no longer any boot disk.
 
Edit : Task Manager can't be started (Ctrl+Alt+Del).. so hard powering off is the only option.
 
Checking the bios SATA device only shows the other drives (Backup and Samples).. removing the main drive into another PC also can't be detected (I hear the spin sound, but not as loud, and no disk head movement).
 
So.. I'm still considered lucky to have just moved some recent project into the Sample drive, and I was working on my latest project last night on the Sample drive... I'm still thinking what's important in the main HDD.. Quite a few folder in the desktop did not make it to the Sample drive.
 
Beside all the MP4s / pics I've just moved over to the desktop prior to the crash (files from the handphone was deleted automatically after moving ) - but I guess I might still be able to recover missing files from the phone SD card.
 
So.. my advise.. any drive that is 4 years old should be replaced, and move it to temp / unimportant storage.
post edited by tomixornot - 2016/05/22 10:42:34

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Re: HDD Price comparison 2016/05/22 14:29:15 (permalink)
I have had my primary drive (SSD) go "offline" to the BIOS a handful of times, and never did find the reason why. In a couple situations, a cold boot fixed the issue, but when that did not work, the following did (also baffling):
 
I inserted the newest Windows Repair Disk (created by Win7). Went through the bootup, selected "Repair" (which does a search and says "cannot repair since the installed version is newer" or some such). Exited, shut down, and rebooted, and the SSD came back online.
 
Not sure if this is an option to try since it seems you already headed down the re-installation path. In the event of a true failure on a HDD one of two things would occur in most situations... 1) you will hear the heads "seeking" but get no response (failure of the head on the Master Boot partition) or 2) nothing at all (the circuit card attached to the drive failed or something in the connections went belly-up). The "going offline to BIOS" is not unheard of, and the best I can tell in my situation was a firmware (driver) issue that could only be updated at a very specific step in the Win7 installation process (this is specific to my SSD, since its own updater cannot recognize the SSD as an attached device after a certain point in the Win7 update cycle).

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Re: HDD Price comparison 2016/05/22 19:41:33 (permalink)
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My chart:
 
1990: omfgwtf HOW MUCH?! I could buy Switzerland for that. £1M for 1TB
2016: LOL!1 cheaper than peanuts, roughly 20,000 times cheaper
 
20 thousand.  Times.  Cheaper.  Tell me something else that was available in 1990 that's now 20K times cheaper :-)


4 Megabytes of RAM in 1992 £104. Or £26 a Megabyte.
16 Gigabytes DDR4 RAM (= 16,777,216 Megabytes) in 2016 £66.42. Or £0.000004 a Megabyte (approx).

My quick (and probably wrong) arithmetic reckons that's a factor of, what, 6,500,000? And that's without taking 24 years of inflation into account, which would make the price per MB even less now compared to 1992.

And people complain about the price of RAM... :-)

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Re: HDD Price comparison 2016/05/22 20:21:41 (permalink)
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I inserted the newest Windows Repair Disk (created by Win7). Went through the bootup, selected "Repair" (which does a search and says "cannot repair since the installed version is newer" or some such). Exited, shut down, and rebooted, and the SSD came back online.

 
Thanks for the suggestion, I shall try this option later as I may have created a repair disk some time back.
 
I needed a working Win 7 to recover the hand phone SD card deleted files. Using Photorec "dos interface" freeware, I was able to recover almost all the files.
 
Just last week I was helping a friend, where a similar message appears, the boot disk (HDD) was not found. But after a fresh reboot, it works. Perhaps sign of failure coming.
 
Meanwhile, I'm thinking of buying a similar used / refurbished HDD to swap the PCB board and see. It's crazy that that I've discovered older model HDD sold brand new is much more expensive. Even more expensive than current larger size HDD.

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Re: HDD Price comparison 2016/05/24 22:50:26 (permalink)
Update : I've ordered a refurbished same model HDD. Hoping a PCB board swap will enable some recovery (the PCB board swap itself is quite easy - credit to many youtube videos).
 
And this is when I discovered.. The Samsung Spin Point F3 I've been thinking I had, is actually an older F1 version. F3 was the recommended drive to get from this forum and I specifically told my local IT store the model. Somehow, HDD bare unit in anti static bag don't usually have the word F3 or F1 printed on it and I trusted the store for giving me the right model.. Not sure if the F3 would have lasted longer. Maybe it would as PCB board overheating is listed as a common problem with the Samsung Spin Point drives.

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Re: HDD Price comparison 2016/05/25 05:28:09 (permalink)
Be sure to ground yourself when working with electronics just in case.

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Re: HDD Price comparison 2016/05/26 20:43:01 (permalink)
Newegg had a 5TB WD Black for $189 today.

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Re: HDD Price comparison 2016/05/27 01:02:57 (permalink)
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Be sure to ground yourself when working with electronics just in case.



Thanks! I will.

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Re: HDD Price comparison 2016/05/27 01:09:44 (permalink)
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Newegg had a 5TB WD Black for $189 today.



Browsing.. can't find it.
 
I just purchased a ADATA SSD 240GB at 54.99/= as OS boot disk.

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