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Please let it be OS X.
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Re: Please let it be OS X.
2016/05/28 14:48:46
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☄ Helpfulby THambrecht 2016/05/28 18:07:01
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Yeah with 34 pages in the "Guess what" sticky thread as of 12:30 MDT, It better be something monumental like this. 
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Re: Please let it be OS X.
2016/05/28 17:45:38
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☄ Helpfulby THambrecht 2016/05/28 18:07:06
Please let it NOT be OSX....
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Re: Please let it be OS X.
2016/05/28 18:09:39
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☄ Helpfulby eikelbijter 2016/05/28 19:10:38
Why OSX?
Windows (7, 8, 10) and SONAR is so stable that we are working over 14 days without reboot.
And we are earning our daily money with SONAR. Working 14 hours per day.
However we don't make music, we restore tapes and vinyl.
For the same money, a PC is faster and better as any MAC.
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Re: Please let it be OS X.
2016/05/28 18:11:31
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☄ Helpfulby pdlstl2 2016/05/28 22:42:54
This would not be something I'd be particularly thrilled to see. At any company, there are only so many resources to go around so it's nice having a DAW where the development team can focus on Windows.
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Re: Please let it be OS X.
2016/05/28 18:11:56
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I wouldn't mind an OS X version. It would make my workflow that much faster since I have a MacBook Pro. I'm not dead in the water without it, but it would be nice to keep everything within one DAW I could port back and forth.
That said, I suspect an OS X version would be a bumpy ride as compatibilities were ironed out. I don't know how much I'd enjoy that process.
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Re: Please let it be OS X.
2016/05/28 18:46:00
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SONAR on OSX would expand the user base and respect Cakewalk deserves in the market one would hope.
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Re: Please let it be OS X.
2016/05/28 18:59:45
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☄ Helpfulby Sylvan 2016/05/28 22:41:53
Consider this: every time the big fruit releases yet another 10.x update to its OS, tons of software doesn't work anymore. Hell, you can't even install the newest iTunes on their 5 year old version of OSX! This is a true nightmare for developers, and an incredible waste of resources, just to maintain compatibility. It always blows my mind how all the hardcore Mac users around here (Los Angeles, land of the idiot!) still keep regurgitating the nonsense that Mac "just works", right after having an almost laughable conversation amongst themselves about the craziest problems.
In contrast, I just upgraded my buddy's OLD Win7 PC to Win10. EVERYTHING worked: his old PCI Gina 3G, and even Sonar 5! That's software from 11 years ago, working flawlessly on the newest OS. I'm beyond glad that Cakewalk is focused on the best ecosystem out there for us users.....
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Re: Please let it be OS X.
2016/05/28 19:03:20
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bitman
SONAR on OSX would expand the user base and respect Cakewalk deserves in the market one would hope.
that unfortunately seems to be true (unfortunate in the fact that it seemingly needs that to gain that respect in certain circles) although it would bring with it perhaps some drawbacks for things as they are now maybe, like it would be like doubling the workload, i guess if they were staffed for the task then . . . but hasn't sonar for mac all but been ruled out by cakewalk themselves? i hope personally it doesn't happen especially if there is a negative impact on how things are now. but for those mac peoples sake, if it were possible without any negative impact on the way things are then why not?
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Re: Please let it be OS X.
2016/05/28 20:06:08
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OTOH.. imo, Making improvements such that Windows Sonar could be a solid alternative to Ableton Live would expand the served available market far more bitman
SONAR on OSX would expand the user base and respect Cakewalk deserves in the market one would hope.
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Re: Please let it be OS X.
2016/05/28 20:17:03
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bitman
SONAR on OSX would expand the user base and respect Cakewalk deserves in the market one would hope.
By what? 5-10% maybe? And for that the Bakers must support two codebases? Just get any cheap Windows laptop and use it as a dedicated DAW.
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Re: Please let it be OS X.
2016/05/28 21:01:53
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eikelbijter
Consider this: every time the big fruit releases yet another 10.x update to its OS, tons of software doesn't work anymore. Hell, you can't even install the newest iTunes on their 5 year old version of OSX! This is a true nightmare for developers, and an incredible waste of resources, just to maintain compatibility. It always blows my mind how all the hardcore Mac users around here (Los Angeles, land of the idiot!) still keep regurgitating the nonsense that Mac "just works", right after having an almost laughable conversation amongst themselves about the craziest problems.
In contrast, I just upgraded my buddy's OLD Win7 PC to Win10. EVERYTHING worked: his old PCI Gina 3G, and even Sonar 5! That's software from 11 years ago, working flawlessly on the newest OS. I'm beyond glad that Cakewalk is focused on the best ecosystem out there for us users.....
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Re: Please let it be OS X.
2016/05/28 22:03:17
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THambrecht
Why OSX?
Windows (7, 8, 10) and SONAR is so stable that we are working over 14 days without reboot.
... I hope you mean you haven't had to reboot because of a crash or hang, and not that you've kept your pc up for 14 days straight without rebooting. The latter is definitely not advisable.
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Sylvan
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Re: Please let it be OS X.
2016/05/28 22:38:21
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☄ Helpfulby Magic Russ 2016/05/30 17:26:21
I already know SONAR is the best DAW (at lest for me). I don't need a Mac disciple to validate my DAW choice.
Just a little FYI for Mac people... The processors are identical, the rest of the guts are almost identical. Both PC's and Macs are using Intel processors, unless you put an AMD in on purpose. They are basically the same inside. The difference is the OS software.
Once you fire up your DAW, forget the OS. At that point you should not even be thinking about your OS, but rather your DAW.
Also one more thing. A "Mac" is a personal computer right? So it is a PC. It is just a PC that runs OSX on very expensive hardware (kind of like a dongle).
So we have PC's that run on OSX that require very specific and expensive configurations, and we have PC's that run Windows with almost limitless options for customizations on much more competitively priced hardware.
So I ask, "Why?" Why would any company waste resources to develop an already mature and well-working DAW for an expensive dongle with very little upside? The OSX disciples are already entrenched in the DAW they are using and not likely to switch.
Why such a fuss about OSX? It's just another OS. SONAR is on Windows. Lets just accept it and get on with production time.
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Re: Please let it be OS X.
2016/05/28 22:53:00
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f' apple. I'm sticking with Cakewalk BECAUSE they diss that arrogant company! ... At the end of the day, CRApple has nothing on Windows. In the beginning it was power to deal with video and audio. Those days are gone!!! Now what? Virus protection? Stay offline like I do.
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Re: Please let it be OS X.
2016/05/28 23:57:36
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"hope you mean you haven't had to reboot because of a crash or hang, and not that you've kept your pc up for 14 days straight without rebooting. The latter is definitely not advisable. " At the care facility/ hospital were I work we have over 100 PC's. They rarely get shut off. I think once a month the IT crew remotely do a little updating. My own DAW (W8.1) is mostly off line and I find no reason right now to run Windows updates.. Sure if your inclined to use your DAW for everything under the sun that's different, but my point is working computer in real workplaces do not need all the stupid stuff they are always upgrading. So I see what our friend in post #4 is saying.. and he's doing nothing wrong at all. My office computer is in sleep mode 24/7 months on end. I'll re boot it when it asks me too which is about once a week I guess. I'm lazy about that machine and just let Windows bully me around. My DAW computer has way less issues and I strongly believe it's because once I had it running smoothly,,, I will not change anything. And before I do, I make sure I can go back!
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Re: Please let it be OS X.
2016/05/29 08:12:55
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JonD
THambrecht
Why OSX?
Windows (7, 8, 10) and SONAR is so stable that we are working over 14 days without reboot.
...
I hope you mean you haven't had to reboot because of a crash or hang, and not that you've kept your pc up for 14 days straight without rebooting. The latter is definitely not advisable.
I've kept mine on for months at a time. It really doesn't do them any harm, especially with modern hardware.
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Re: Please let it be OS X.
2016/05/29 12:18:22
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jpetersen
Just get any cheap Windows laptop and use it as a dedicated DAW.
And hope it works at low ASIO latencies, and hope if it doesn't you can access the necessary BIOS settings to get it to work as needed. Not to mention killing off all the unnecessary junk cheap laptops usually have pre-installed. And you'll need something better than a cheap 5400rpm 2.5" internal drive, an i5 or, preferably, better cpu. And an ethernet port if you need to run it networked for any reason. Cheap laptops can be very good general purpose computers. A DAW is not a "general purpose" computer. A uear or so ago one of the Cakewalk blog items said they use HP Z-books, not exactly cheap laptops. I can configure a laptop I think would work with Sonar for not much more money than my sig PC. Still cheaper than my MacBook Pro of course.
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Re: Please let it be OS X.
2016/05/29 14:26:34
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Cakewalk Pro Audio/SONAR was my first sequencer.... Logic is great, but I'd certainly jump on a SONAR for Mac and/or SONAR Lite for iPad Pro.
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Re: Please let it be OS X.
2016/05/30 17:12:41
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Sylvan
So I ask, "Why?" Why would any company waste resources to develop an already mature and well-working DAW for an expensive dongle with very little upside? The OSX disciples are already entrenched in the DAW they are using and not likely to switch.
This is true enough, but when you add in the cost of maintaining anything on OSX, it's a wonder anyone would ever.
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Re: Please let it be OS X.
2016/05/31 08:04:00
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I used PC's for years even built a few. They worked very well. But Mac was the first time I didn't have to do component/driver research and tweaking to get the performance & stability I needed at low latencies for virtual instruments. Everyone's mileage will vary of course.
I'm not expecting a Mac version of SONAR, but there's a certain nostalgia about debating the merits of such, -daily- over a decade ago. 😎
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Re: Please let it be OS X.
2016/05/31 08:23:52
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Mystic38
imo, Making improvements such that Windows Sonar could be a solid alternative to Ableton Live would expand the served available market far more
I don't know that anyone can say for sure what would have the bigger effect, but a beefed-up Matrix that put it seriously into Live territory would seem to be far better use of resources than a port to OSX, and yes, likely have at least similar results in terms of expanding the user base. Maybe compete with Maschine too while we're at it? Particularly if the price point were competitive. In any case that's what I'd rather see. Not that I expect many people care, but hey, there it is...
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Re: Please let it be OS X.
2016/05/31 08:25:25
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eikelbijter
Please let it NOT be OSX....
THIS!!!!!
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