lawajava
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Sonar 2016.05 - noticeable performance improvement
I'm wondering if others are experiencing this as well. Am I hallucinating, or is 2016.05 actually performing better? For example, pre 2016.05 my Core 1 in the Performance reader had been slightly higher than the other cores. Now it's always on par with the rest. In addition, everything seems snappier. Did the bakers flip some bits and in addition to adding some color, did they add some zip? Just wondering if anyone else is seeing something similar.
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The Grim
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Re: Sonar 2016.05 - noticeable performance improvement
2016/05/28 19:28:06
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i have read this in other threads, i haven't used sonar much since around kingston and basically moved to another daw as my main daw for various other reasons. after updating to the latest release and taking it for a spin i also thought that performance had improved and that the load seemed to be spread more evenly across cores as you say, although the first still always higher. but then i had read this before actually trying it for myself, so i wondered if i was actually seeing it or things were being 'colored' because of what i had previously read placebo effect type of thing it would be good to get some official word as to whether or not something was done that would directly affect performance in a positive way in the latest release.
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Re: Sonar 2016.05 - noticeable performance improvement
2016/05/28 19:45:38
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Performance of 05.16 does seem a little better on my system.
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Re: Sonar 2016.05 - noticeable performance improvement
2016/05/28 21:06:30
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electrons move much faster on a dark grey background...
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
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Re: Sonar 2016.05 - noticeable performance improvement
2016/05/28 23:38:51
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Observer effect. They move faster since they can't be observed on the dark background :) Against which build is the performance change being compared - 05 vs 04 or earlier?
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Re: Sonar 2016.05 - noticeable performance improvement
2016/05/29 00:02:03
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well for me anything between say kingston and manchester, never updated past manchester until this latest release, and kingston was the last one i really done anything with before . . . well . . . doing it somewhere else
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Re: Sonar 2016.05 - noticeable performance improvement
2016/05/29 00:22:53
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I don't know if this is the platform for this question, but I will ask ( since I see Noel here ). Downloaded 2016.05 all is well save one thing. Sonar won't accept my Konplete Audio 6 drivers for the interface. I can usemy interface in Bitwig which I have on the same laptop. I even system restored and the interface works well in Sonar without the update. But once 2016.05 is installed it prompts that my drivers are incompatible and my interface turns into a paperweight. Any suggestions? Please advise.
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Re: Sonar 2016.05 - noticeable performance improvement
2016/05/29 00:27:26
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iirc around that time there were others posting about possible performance issues. i do know that when i installed the early release version for this latest release the first thing i noticed was it seemed more snappy. then again i also think my car runs better and rides smoother after a good clean out and wash  , so it might be just perception, the new skin/theme and all (which is very nice i must say) but going by the performance meter it does seem to be obviously more evenly spread across the cores than it did, still number 1 is higher, but from what i understand that is how things are. doesn't really matter i suppose, but it would be good to know if it is real or imagined.
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lawajava
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Re: Sonar 2016.05 - noticeable performance improvement
2016/05/29 01:03:15
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I've been keeping steadily updated with each rolling update. They've all been fine, and had their individual improvements.
I'm commenting because between 2016.04 and after I just updated to 05 on the exact same songs I was working on this week I noticed faster screen refreshes and overall a feeling of it being faster. It was like an A/B comparison.
I don't think I'm imagining how it seems the cores usage is balancing better now, especially less load on core 1.
Oh well, Noel isn't confirming so maybe it's just me. But I see / feel something is better in a good way.
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Re: Sonar 2016.05 - noticeable performance improvement
2016/05/29 06:51:32
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I don't notice anything better performance-wise, and I push my system into the red 7 days a week. Runs well, as it has been for the last good few builds.
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Re: Sonar 2016.05 - noticeable performance improvement
2016/05/29 07:15:59
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I noticed a huge improvement over a couple of consecutive updates late last year, and things have been ticking along consistently ever since. Did you skip any updates? Can't say I have noticed particular improvements beyond asthetics this update.
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Re: Sonar 2016.05 - noticeable performance improvement
2016/05/29 12:54:02
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I mentioned in another thread that my core balancing seems better with the current version. Doesn't seem faster than last month. Cakewalk should write a little program to control the performance module in the control bar. We would all be cheering because the little core bars were all aligned, and talking about how much faster it seems.
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Re: Sonar 2016.05 - noticeable performance improvement
2016/05/29 23:07:39
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I apologize for using this thread for something else, my problem is solved. Yes I did lose my drivers for Audio 6, but the problem was due to a Windows 10 update in the background while launching Sonar 2016.05. I reinstalled the drivers, increased my buffer on the interface and all is running well. Again, I apologize. I've never had a problem with SPlat of any type before... For the 20 or so hours without Audio 6, ASIO4ALL2 was sounding crystal clear...
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Re: Sonar 2016.05 - noticeable performance improvement
2016/05/30 06:31:32
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thaddeusjon Yes I did lose my drivers for Audio 6, but the problem was due to a Windows 10 update in the background while launching Sonar 2016.05.
Win10 looks great, but things like this make me wanna stay with Win8 as long as possible.
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Re: Sonar 2016.05 - noticeable performance improvement
2016/05/30 08:14:40
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There may be a performance boost due to ongoing CW tweaking. I have noticed improvements in the past roll outs. I haven't noticed one here but it maybe they're just not as noticeable to me.
post edited by John - 2016/05/30 09:19:31
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Re: Sonar 2016.05 - noticeable performance improvement
2016/05/30 08:37:09
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☄ Helpfulby joel77 2016/05/30 09:10:58
If you skipped updates there were definitely changes in prior versions this year that affected performance including switching to a newer compiler with more code optimizations. Between 04 and 05 the biggest changes were to the UI code for dynamic theming. Its possible that some changes in that area optimized UI performance but it would be hard to find what exactly since there were a lot of changes. There were also some changes to VST handling in prep for an upcoming feature but I wouldn't expect that to have made a big change. Anyway I'm glad to hear of a positive improvement :)
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Re: Sonar 2016.05 - noticeable performance improvement
2016/05/30 09:59:20
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"Changes to VST handling in prep for an upcoming feature"? Now I'm intrigued......;) Veerrry sneaky slipping that little teaser in there.
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Re: Sonar 2016.05 - noticeable performance improvement
2016/05/30 10:53:13
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Yes, I had the feeling of improvements as well, especially when it came to MIDI editing in the PRV. Even with a modest amount of instruments and MIDI data in the PRV in the past, the scrolling and screen activity would lag terribly. Right now it's been drastically reduced - same for the large number of clips on the track view pane. Definite optimization improvements on my end. Hope that clip splitting issue is next on the chopping block.... pun intended! :D
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Re: Sonar 2016.05 - noticeable performance improvement
2016/05/30 21:43:10
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I can also vouch for the balancing of the cores, or that's what the meters say. The UI is a welcome help for tired eyes too.
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Re: Sonar 2016.05 - noticeable performance improvement
2016/05/30 22:45:16
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Noel has now clarified if there was a speed increase this release it's my imagination. Maybe orange takes less power than blue and somehow it sped up anyway..
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Re: Sonar 2016.05 - noticeable performance improvement
2016/05/31 00:52:52
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Maybe no difference in performance / speed overall, but still, cores are definitely more balanced than previous updates, in the performance monitor. Perhaps it's part of the big announcements, but no one wants to confirm yet. I see a significant visual change at least.
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Re: Sonar 2016.05 - noticeable performance improvement
2016/05/31 08:08:18
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What specifically is faster? My songs are playing just as fast as before.
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Re: Sonar 2016.05 - noticeable performance improvement
2016/05/31 08:55:59
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I jumped from Manchester to 2016.05 and projects most definitely open faster. Overall core balancing was pretty good in Manchester, but it does seem a little more balanced now. Regards, Dan
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Re: Sonar 2016.05 - noticeable performance improvement
2016/05/31 09:25:16
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2016.05 seems to take longer to startup than some earlier versions (to get to the start screen with recent projects). 2016.04 wasn't any better. This is on Win 10 with an i7 3770, 16GB RAM and an SSD on a SATA III motherboard port (Port 0).
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Re: Sonar 2016.05 - noticeable performance improvement
2016/05/31 12:14:53
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rebel007 "Changes to VST handling in prep for an upcoming feature"? Now I'm intrigued......;) Veerrry sneaky slipping that little teaser in there.
Yep!Please let us know wich upcoming feature is!
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Re: Sonar 2016.05 - noticeable performance improvement
2016/06/01 02:30:02
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fireberd 2016.05 seems to take longer to startup than some earlier versions (to get to the start screen with recent projects). 2016.04 wasn't any better. This is on Win 10 with an i7 3770, 16GB RAM and an SSD on a SATA III motherboard port (Port 0).
VST scan (if run on auto-scan at startup) seems to take longer, too, despite no plugs having changed ...
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Re: Sonar 2016.05 - noticeable performance improvement
2016/06/01 15:37:02
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fireberd 2016.05 seems to take longer to startup than some earlier versions (to get to the start screen with recent projects). 2016.04 wasn't any better. This is on Win 10 with an i7 3770, 16GB RAM and an SSD on a SATA III motherboard port (Port 0).
That's interesting. Startup in 2016.05, was one are that I thought was a little better compared to previous versions.
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