Rain
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Look what the bat dragged in...
 Being a lifelong student of religion and scriptures, especially the Jewish Bible, knowing firsthand just how much can get lost in translation and considering the multiple layers of meaning hidden behind the original Hebrew text, I figured I'd skip latin for now and pick up Hebrew. I'd already started teaching myself the alphabet a few weeks ago - 15 minutes a night, a few times a week - and I've finally reached the point where I can (laboriously) read full sentences in books, recognize words and pick up bits of vocabulary. Reading "backwards" is a very strange experience, and writing even more so - I almost feel like a kid learning to write. It's as if your brain rewires itself. Some kind of mental gymnastic, pretty interesting in itself. Even just the way you handle the book or make transition from one page to the next. Fascinating. So I guess it'll be Greek next and then Latin.
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Re: Look what the bat dragged in...
2016/06/05 01:12:34
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You are truly a unique individual Krist.....in a very good way.
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Re: Look what the bat dragged in...
2016/06/05 03:00:05
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I wanted to see the bat. 
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Re: Look what the bat dragged in...
2016/06/05 05:27:43
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You are truly a unique individual Krist.....in a very good way.
Thank God. I don't think my wife could put up with more than one me. :P
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Re: Look what the bat dragged in...
2016/06/05 09:12:24
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I think that is a really cool endeavor.
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Re: Look what the bat dragged in...
2016/06/05 10:40:17
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Just don't start smoking!
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Re: Look what the bat dragged in...
2016/06/05 13:16:18
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☄ Helpfulby Rain 2016/06/05 21:19:40
Here's a fun suggestion to add some variety: set up a virtual Hebrew keyboard on your computer and learn to type the letters. You'll see them appear on the screen from right to left. And you can learn to switch to left to right for Latin characters and numbers. You could also type a few words into Google Translate and hear them pronounced.
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Re: Look what the bat dragged in...
2016/06/05 21:06:20
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Mitch_I
Here's a fun suggestion to add some variety: set up a virtual Hebrew keyboard on your computer and learn to type the letters. You'll see them appear on the screen from right to left. And you can learn to switch to left to right for Latin characters and numbers. You could also type a few words into Google Translate and hear them pronounced.
I like the idea of the virtual keyboard! Thanks! That boxset is actually quite complete - 3 course books (beginner to advanced) and 9 CD's. Coupled with the first book I bought and the lectures I've been following on YouTube, if I fail, I only have myself to blame.
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Re: Look what the bat dragged in...
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☄ Helpfulby Starise 2016/06/05 22:04:27
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Just don't start smoking!
I gave almost 30 years of my life to that nasty habit - and since I tend to do everything I do in excess, that meant 2 packs a day for over 15 years. Slavery is a much better way to put it than habit. I quit 3 years ago, and it's one of the best decisions I've taken in my entire life. I'm NEVER going back.
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Re: Look what the bat dragged in...
2016/06/07 22:51:27
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☄ Helpfulby Rain 2016/06/10 17:09:36
Rain
Being a lifelong student of religion and scriptures, especially the Jewish Bible, knowing firsthand just how much can get lost in translation and considering the multiple layers of meaning hidden behind the original Hebrew text, I figured I'd skip latin for now and pick up Hebrew.
I'd already started teaching myself the alphabet a few weeks ago - 15 minutes a night, a few times a week - and I've finally reached the point where I can (laboriously) read full sentences in books, recognize words and pick up bits of vocabulary.
Reading "backwards" is a very strange experience, and writing even more so - I almost feel like a kid learning to write. It's as if your brain rewires itself. Some kind of mental gymnastic, pretty interesting in itself. Even just the way you handle the book or make transition from one page to the next.
Fascinating.
So I guess it'll be Greek next and then Latin.
Congratulations!I found Greek to be fun, but I had a teacher. There are quite a number of connections one can make to English. I got to the point where I could read pretty easily out of the New Testament or Septuagint. I need to brush up now, however. A number of, er, "life experiences" have slowed me down. Latin is cool, too, but I never studied it, per se (though I can figure out much of it). I did have Italian and enjoyed that very much, but found to my total delight, that of the romance languages, Italian was the closest to Latin. When I noticed this, my Italian teacher told me that the father of modern Italian, Dante Alighieri, often deferred to the Latin when systematizing the language.
I don't read Hebrew (yet), but my wife does. When we are looking at an Old Testament passage, we often find it helpful for her to look it up in the Hebrew and I look at it in the Septuagint. That way, we get the original and the shadings of the scholarship of the Seventy and, therefore, the translation that was most used by the Apostles.
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Re: Look what the bat dragged in...
2016/06/10 23:07:07
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I've studied LOTS of languages throughout my lifetime: B, Assembler, C, C++, C#, Basic, Visual Basic, LISP, ADA, Fortran, PL/I, COBOL, Python and some Spanish. How much I remember is a totally different topic... 
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Re: Look what the bat dragged in...
2016/06/12 00:07:03
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craig is it possible to write poetry in fortran?
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Re: Look what the bat dragged in...
2016/06/12 01:10:08
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craig is it possible to write poetry in fortran?
Not really. For that I always used assembler.
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Re: Look what the bat dragged in...
2016/06/18 07:06:31
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How much does ancient Aramaic differ from modern Hebrew?
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Re: Look what the bat dragged in...
2016/06/18 17:02:07
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How much does ancient Aramaic differ from modern Hebrew?
I have yet to find out - once I start digging in the Talmud...
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Re: Look what the bat dragged in...
2016/06/18 20:21:55
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How much does ancient Aramaic differ from modern Hebrew?
Very little. My wife can read both, but has had only training in reading Hebrew. Almost all the letters are the same, but pronunciation may be a bit different.
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Re: Look what the bat dragged in...
2016/06/18 22:09:32
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Where does Aramaic fit into that picture? That is another language used to write the scriptures.
Learn that and you can watch Mel Gibson's Passion of the Christ without the subtitles.
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Re: Look what the bat dragged in...
2016/06/20 03:52:27
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Rain
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Fascinating.
So I guess it'll be Greek next and then Latin.
I guess the music is taking a break or stopped? Wait ... wait ... you can try singing in those languages, and every one will think you are just like MAGMA and their "Kobaian" language in all of their work!
Music is not about notes and chords! My poem is not about the computer or monitor or letters! It's about how I was able to translate it from my insides!
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Re: Look what the bat dragged in...
2016/06/20 14:16:15
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Rainorian Chants? 
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