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(Solved) Issue with The Early Access Program SONAR 2016.06 - need someone to confirm.
I just downloaded and installed Boutique FX Suite Setup 1.0.1.14 which is supposed to contain the updated TH3 Cakewalk Edition. I chose 64bit for the installation. As with all Sonar updates, I did not have Sonar Platinum running at the time of the update. After completing this, the version of TH3 Cakewalk Edition remained at 3.1.5. I was expecting 3.2.2. This was using CCC and using the file that is downloaded from Cakewalk's "My Products" page. So I repeated the installation of just the Boutique Suite, this time with the /LOG switch, and the log showed that the only TH3 related file that was installed on my system was "C:\ProgramData\Overloud\TH3\cakewalk.of2". I opened the log file in a text editor and found only one instance of TH3 in the entire file - which showed the placing of the above file I also verified the version of the TH3-64.vst3 file itself (copy to alternative location, rename it to *.dll, right click, properties | details) was 3.1.5. Can someone please verify.
post edited by promidi - 2016/06/17 23:30:55
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Re: Issue with The Early Access Program SONAR 2016.06 - need someone to confirm.
2016/06/17 22:06:57
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I installed through CCC and I'm at 3.2.2
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promidi
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Re: Issue with The Early Access Program SONAR 2016.06 - need someone to confirm.
2016/06/17 22:20:28
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PilotGav I installed through CCC and I'm at 3.2.2
Did you install 64bit version on Windows 7 64bit?
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Re: Issue with The Early Access Program SONAR 2016.06 - need someone to confirm.
2016/06/17 22:27:41
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Mine didn't update either. I did the rollback on main Sonar, Boutique FX Suite and the Local documentation. I'm running Windows 7 64bit and 64bit Sonar Platinum.
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Re: Issue with The Early Access Program SONAR 2016.06 - need someone to confirm.
2016/06/17 22:32:50
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Hey PromiDi. Win 7 64 here and I am on 3.2.2. as well. The boutique installer definitely copies a new .dll. I download and install manually as my studio is offline on its own network, though that shouldn't make any difference.
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Re: Issue with The Early Access Program SONAR 2016.06 - need someone to confirm.
2016/06/17 22:44:48
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tenfoot Hey PromiDi. Win 7 64 here and I am on 3.2.2. as well. The boutique installer definitely copies a new .dll. I download and install manually as my studio is offline on its own network, though that shouldn't make any difference. There must be a particular set of circumstances on certain machines that causes the install to not install the DLL . I notice one other (s far) has the same issue as I have.... The wield thing is I can find plently on instances of DLL files for other plugins being installed in the installation log, but no instances of any VST3 files. Hopefully a Baker picks this up..
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Re: Issue with The Early Access Program SONAR 2016.06 - need someone to confirm.
2016/06/17 22:47:51
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My logs look like what you described. and the C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3\Overloud\TH3-64.vst3 is still dated 4/19/2016 I deleted the CCC downloaded version of the installer and forced it to do it again just in case, but it re-downloaded the same exe and once again didn't put the new TH3 out. Going to try downloading from the web and installing manually.
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Re: Issue with The Early Access Program SONAR 2016.06 - need someone to confirm.
2016/06/17 22:49:55
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promidi
There must be a particular set of circumstances on certain machines that causes the install to not install the DLL . I notice one other (s far) has the same issue as I have....
Looks like it. Did you try a manual download/install?
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Re: Issue with The Early Access Program SONAR 2016.06 - need someone to confirm.
2016/06/17 23:07:07
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tenfoot Looks like it. Did you try a manual download/install?
Yes, I did try that. However, I think I have found the solution for those who experience this issue. In C:\ProgramData\Overloud there is a folder called "TH3". I renamed this to "TH3.back" After doing this I reinstalled BoutiqueFXSuiteSetup_1.0.1.14. This time the install went smoothly. I ended up with version 3.2.2 of TH3 cakewalk edition. A new TH3 file gets reinstalled into "C:\ProgramData\Overloud"
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Re: Issue with The Early Access Program SONAR 2016.06 - need someone to confirm.
2016/06/17 23:12:58
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Renaming the c:\ProgramData\Overloud\TH3 folder and running the BoutiqueFXSuiteSetup_1.0.1.14 didn't fix mine. All it did was make a single "cakewalk.of2" file in the new TH3 directory.
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Re: Issue with The Early Access Program SONAR 2016.06 - need someone to confirm.
2016/06/17 23:13:55
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The versions on the website are identical to the versions CCC downloaded. So that isn't a help. Is it possible this has something to do with installing the demo version of TH3 way back? (just guessing here)
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Re: Issue with The Early Access Program SONAR 2016.06 - need someone to confirm.
2016/06/17 23:31:48
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msorrels Renaming the c:\ProgramData\Overloud\TH3 folder and running the BoutiqueFXSuiteSetup_1.0.1.14 didn't fix mine. All it did was make a single "cakewalk.of2" file in the new TH3 directory. Not sure what to say there... Are you a local administrator on your machine.... ? We'll have to wait and see if others have the same issue and if there is a response from the Bakers on this one.... Maybe post a thread in the "Problem reports" forum
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Re: Issue with The Early Access Program SONAR 2016.06 - need someone to confirm.
2016/06/17 23:32:38
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I can't seem to get BoutiqueFXSuiteSetup_1.0.1.14 or BoutiqueFXSuiteSetup_1.0.1.11 to even make the files that should be in the C:\ProgramData\Overloud\TH3 directory. I have to go back to BoutiqueFXSuiteSetup_1.0.1.6.exe for that. Maybe it has something to do with my Cakewalk content dir location. I've pretty much let the CCC take over most paths but still have Content going to my D: drive. Whatever the magic is to make the 1.0.1.11 or the new 1.0.1.14 installers to do TH3 I don't seem to have it and no amount of deleting/renaming directories is changing it for me.
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Re: Issue with The Early Access Program SONAR 2016.06 - need someone to confirm.
2016/06/17 23:47:08
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Ok I think I figured it out and I do believe it is related to the expired demo TH3. I had a %appdata%\Overloud\TH3 directory. The BoutiqueFXSuiteSetup_1.0.1.14 saw that and skips/aborts installing all of Cakewalk TH3. Even though I have no TH3 demo installed anymore. So nothing gets updated in the c:\ProgramData\Overloud\TH3 directory and things mostly fail. I renamed the %appdata%\Overloud\TH3 directory and re-ran the BoutiqueFXSuiteSetup_1.0.1.14 and this time it made the C:\ProgramData\Overloud\TH3 dir and installed the .vst3 like it was supposed to. And I now have the correct new version of TH3 for Cakewalk.
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Re: Issue with The Early Access Program SONAR 2016.06 - need someone to confirm.
2016/06/18 01:52:10
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I think you are right about it being caused by an expired Demo as I also tried the demo version of TH3
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Re: Issue with The Early Access Program SONAR 2016.06 - need someone to confirm.
2016/06/18 02:51:37
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I seem to remember it may have been TH3 Cakewalk itself which "offered" the demo version, so I suspect there will be at least a few users with this problem. They clearly are trying to protect full install customers but need to make the installer just a bit smarter. I'm also seeing a problem with the Softube Saturation Knob plugin and the new release. Sonar keeps complaining it can't find the 32bit version CLSID in my plugin registry and has me pick which one it is every time I right click on a clip. I've tried a bunch of different resets of my VST registry but so far haven't had any luck getting it to shut up about it. I may have brought this on my self though by installing Softube's Modular the other day, their all in one installer updated my copy of the non-pro channel Saturation Knob. I think it has something to do with how Sonar handles the dos file name in plugins, I don't think my NTFS drive has dos 8.3 filenames enabled. But the CLSID is the same so I'm not sure why it's complaining. I didn't have this problem before the new release, so perhaps they changed something for the worse. This is pretty much the last straw for me though, this release just isn't working and isn't worth it.
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Re: Issue with The Early Access Program SONAR 2016.06 - need someone to confirm.
2016/06/18 02:56:39
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I have never installed the demo and had no issue. Early days, but the evidence mounts:)
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Re: Issue with The Early Access Program SONAR 2016.06 - need someone to confirm.
2016/06/18 04:39:45
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tenfoot I have never installed the demo and had no issue. Early days, but the evidence mounts:)
I guess this is why the Bakers started the early release program so issues like this can be ironed out before the public release....
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Re: Issue with The Early Access Program SONAR 2016.06 - need someone to confirm.
2016/06/18 10:05:01
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Does that mean we all qualify for Beta-Testers pay? LOL
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Re: Issue with The Early Access Program SONAR 2016.06 - need someone to confirm.
2016/06/18 12:59:02
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Sidroe Does that mean we all qualify for Beta-Testers pay? LOL
We are already getting it:)
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Re: Issue with The Early Access Program SONAR 2016.06 - need someone to confirm.
2016/06/19 12:01:22
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msorrels I renamed the %appdata%\Overloud\TH3 directory and re-ran the BoutiqueFXSuiteSetup_1.0.1.14 and this time it made the C:\ProgramData\Overloud\TH3 dir and installed the .vst3 like it was supposed to. And I now have the correct new version of TH3 for Cakewalk.
Thanks! This fix restored my TH3 also. I tried Cake support, but they were unable to solve the issue for me. Thanks to the good folks here on the forum ( especially scook) we're back in business!
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Re: Issue with The Early Access Program SONAR 2016.06 - need someone to confirm.
2016/06/19 12:49:31
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I'm definitely getting tired of debugging other companies installers. The Overloud guys are good guys, but their install directory sprawl (we'll stick things all over the place) and lack of attention to details is disappointing. Just in case anyone wants to know, the way I worked this is out was by running Microsoft's SysInternals Procmon tool while using the installer. It records a log of every disc and registry access. I then combed though the logs and saw what it accessed. This is how I knew it looked at the %appdata% directory and then stopped installing TH3 components.
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Re: Issue with The Early Access Program SONAR 2016.06 - need someone to confirm.
2016/06/19 21:12:43
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I'm having same problem, but the latest update for the Boutique Suite on my command center is 1.0.1.11 even after installing the 2016.06 early release. I think that's my problem. I went up to the Cakewalk site and that's the latest available up there also. I tried renaming the Overloud folder but it didn't help
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Re: Issue with The Early Access Program SONAR 2016.06 - need someone to confirm.
2016/06/19 21:29:18
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dannyjmusic ...but the latest update for the Boutique Suite on my command center is 1.0.1.11 . ........ I went up to the Cakewalk site and that's the latest available up there also. I tried renaming the Overloud folder but it didn't help
Did you look in the roll back menu in the CCC - that's where the BoutiqueFXSuiteSetup_1.0.1.14 is. To see it on your "My products" page, you need to click on "Show Other Downloads" in the "Boutique FX Suite" Specifically, which folder (including full path) did you rename?
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Re: Issue with The Early Access Program SONAR 2016.06 - need someone to confirm.
2016/06/19 21:42:51
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OK guys...downloading it off the cakewalk site and reinstalling worked for me...thanks promidi!
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Re: (Solved) Issue with The Early Access Program SONAR 2016.06 - need someone to confirm.
2016/06/21 02:31:59
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Thanks msorrels that did the trick for me " %appdata%\Overloud\TH3" Now I`m on 3.2.2 Peace
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