Eggster
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32 bit and 64 bit Plugins
Quick question...
When I have a choice of plug ins on my PC - same plugin at either 32 bit or 64 bit - why do some of them work great in 32 bit only, some work well in 64 bit only?
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Re: 32 bit and 64 bit Plugins
2016/06/20 09:12:21
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32 bit plugins are handled by a container called "bitbridge" which allows them
to run in the 64 bit environment. There is also a container called "Jbridge"
which you can purchase, and, from opinions, seems to work better.
All your 64 bit plugins should operate within the 64 host very well as
there is effectively no difference between the 32 and 64 bit plugins,
other then the bandwidth at which they function, meaning the 64 bit
plugins will handle memory better and should function better in this regards...
but "sonicly" there is no "audible" difference.
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Re: 32 bit and 64 bit Plugins
2016/06/20 09:32:37
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I should note, when using 32 bit plugins, the container usually become
the "problem" that makes them "less stable", and why they tend to
crash and burn...
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Re: 32 bit and 64 bit Plugins
2016/06/20 10:18:25
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I have never been able to use 32 bit plugins on my 64 bit, starting with Windows 7 through Windows 10 comp with any stability. So I never even consider it any more. EVAH!
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Re: 32 bit and 64 bit Plugins
2016/06/20 10:31:36
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Just to add to Larry's very thorough response....
Some plugins offer both VST2 and VST3 versions, and there have been reports of problems with some VST3 plugins (while the VST2 version works fine). Once reported, these issues are usually fixed pretty quickly with an update, but it's something to be aware of.
Bottom line:
- Make sure you have the latest version of your plugins.
- If you have problems with a VST3 plugin, try the VST2 version. Report any issues here so others can help verify/troubleshoot.
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Eggster
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Re: 32 bit and 64 bit Plugins
2016/06/21 03:27:42
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Ok - thanks for the answers!
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Re: 32 bit and 64 bit Plugins
2016/06/21 05:55:53
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I still have some 32 bit plug ins I use on a regular basis - to echo Larry's thoughts, Jbridge is far more stable for this - in fact totally stable for me on 64bit win 7, latest version Sonar Platinum
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Re: 32 bit and 64 bit Plugins
2016/06/21 10:36:20
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I read somewhere that bitbridge and jbridge will add some latency too.
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Re: 32 bit and 64 bit Plugins
2016/06/21 11:59:17
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Musichoo
I have been using Jbridge for a long time and I can't really say I've ever noticed any latency issues
Cheers
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JonD
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Re: 32 bit and 64 bit Plugins
2016/06/21 11:59:29
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musichoo
I read somewhere that bitbridge and jbridge will add some latency too.
Really? That hasn't been my experience (at least not *noticeable* latency), and I've used both.
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Eggster
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Re: 32 bit and 64 bit Plugins
2016/06/24 06:05:41
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OK, now I've put all my software back onto my 64 bit Win 8.1 PC, Dimension Pro 64 bit works as a standalone, Izotope Iris only works in 32 bit standalone, Ozone works as 64 bit Standalone, EZDrummer only works as a 32 bit.... The meters on the plug in seem to suggest sound should come out... but nothing! So confused!
post edited by Eggster - 2016/06/24 07:03:09
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Re: 32 bit and 64 bit Plugins
2016/06/24 10:30:32
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Eggster
OK, now I've put all my software back onto my 64 bit Win 8.1 PC, Dimension Pro 64 bit works as a standalone, Izotope Iris only works in 32 bit standalone, Ozone works as 64 bit Standalone, EZDrummer only works as a 32 bit....
The meters on the plug in seem to suggest sound should come out... but nothing!
So confused!
Sounds like you're saying you reinstalled the plugins, and now they won't work correctly...? I would reinstall again, but do "Run as Administrator" (Right-click on setup, choose run as administrator).
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Eggster
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Re: 32 bit and 64 bit Plugins
2016/06/24 10:36:39
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Re: 32 bit and 64 bit Plugins
2016/06/24 10:50:27
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The original Ezdrummer requires installing the 32bit version then downloading and installing the 64bit plug-in. The 32bit Ezdrummer will not work in 64bit SONAR. IIRC, the original Iris standalone is 32bit only. Iris2 includes both 32bit and 64bit standalone synths. Both include 32bit and 64bit plug-ins in VST2 and VST3 format but the default VST2 path is not part of the SONAR VST scan path. I rarely use default VST2 plug-in paths preferring to use the default paths used by SONAR.
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