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2016/06/26 14:19:38 (permalink)

metronome not in sync with tempo

no matter what tempo I use metronome stays at 120
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Re: metronome not in sync with tempo 2016/06/26 14:24:25 (permalink)
Hi, and welcome to this forum. How are you trying to change the tempo? Which version of SONAR do you have? The more info you give, the easier it is to help.
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Re: metronome not in sync with tempo 2016/06/26 14:34:45 (permalink)
Sonar 7 producer. I never had to mess with it before. So if I pout the tempo to 180, the clicks on the metronome stay at 120. No matter where I put my tempo. Its like its not reading the internal clock
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Re: metronome not in sync with tempo 2016/06/26 14:44:39 (permalink)
The metronome will play at the tempo showing in the Tempo icon. 
Sounds like your changing the tempo and it's changing back. 
This could be either your not changing the tempo and saving it, or there's a tempo set already. 
Open the tempo map and see what it say's. 

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Re: metronome not in sync with tempo 2016/06/26 14:52:31 (permalink)
That is the problem . The Metronome is NOT playing with the tempo
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Re: metronome not in sync with tempo 2016/06/26 14:55:02 (permalink)
Example: Everything says 108. And yet when I hit record, the metronome stays at 120
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Re: metronome not in sync with tempo 2016/06/26 16:23:46 (permalink)
Could you post a link to a screenshot. You cannot (IIRC) post a screenshot / image until posted at least 25 posts.
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Re: metronome not in sync with tempo 2016/06/26 16:26:27 (permalink)
Or even a link to the project

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Re: metronome not in sync with tempo 2016/06/26 19:11:25 (permalink)
If the tempo shows 108 then how do you know the metronome is 120?  That's what I was getting at. There's no indicator for the metronome other than the Tempo indicator. So did you look at the tempo map? 

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Re: metronome not in sync with tempo 2016/06/26 19:15:45 (permalink)

 
This is the tempo map the list to the right can be edited. 

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Re: metronome not in sync with tempo 2016/06/26 19:20:11 (permalink)

The tempo indicator "o" which is also what drives the metronome. There's never been a case reported that I'm aware of of the metronome not following the tempo map. 
You can open the Metronome dialog box and check the settings there too. Try both the midi or the audio metronome. 

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Re: metronome not in sync with tempo 2016/06/27 05:30:29 (permalink)
Is this with audio or MIDI material or mixed?
Changing tempi may get confusing if you copy paste MIDI clips. Every pasted clip includes a tempo definition.
If you have pasted a clip with tempo 120 at measure 10, and then change tempo at measure 8 to 100, it will switch back to 120 at the start of measure 10.
 
I'm not sure if this is the culprit in your case, but it's something you need to remember.
As suggested already, check the tempo map.
 
I can't imagine a situation with tempo window showing 108 and metronome staying at 120. Is it really 120 or just wrong/irregular? Or is it the SONAR metronome at all? In case you're talking about MIDI, do you possibly use a MIDI keyboard or workstation that can feed in a metronome of its own?
 
 

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Re: metronome not in sync with tempo 2016/06/27 12:20:20 (permalink)
Thank you everyone
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Re: metronome not in sync with tempo 2016/06/27 12:26:58 (permalink)
its very hard to diagnose cause you are not in front of it. sorry. I'm saying 120 cause that's what I'm guessing its at. but no matter what I change the tempo to,  the metronome stays steady at the same pace. I can put the tempo to 80 or 240 and the clicks on the metronome do not change. I realize there has been no reports of this cause I have searched everywhere. I do not howver see the tempo map anywhere. Anyway I'm going to reinstall Sonar and if that don't work, idk
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Re: metronome not in sync with tempo 2016/06/27 12:29:04 (permalink)
found tempo map and that is in sync with what I change the tempo to. its the metronome. its not following this internal setting or clock or whatever. I have recorded 1000's of songs in sonar in the past 10 years. this has never happened
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Re: metronome not in sync with tempo 2016/06/27 12:50:59 (permalink)
Weird one. Does the audible click sync visually with the Now time cursor position in the timeline?
 
In any case, I would suggest:
 
- Test with a new project from Blank or Basic template.
- Check that Playback and Record Timing Masters are set to channels of the intended interface in Preferences (more likely to get fouled up with WDM driver mode).
- Try switching between ASIO and WDM drivers, whichever you're currently using.
 
Afterthought: Try renaming AUD.INI; SONAR will build a new one with default settings on startup.
post edited by brundlefly - 2016/06/27 13:12:50

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Re: metronome not in sync with tempo 2016/06/27 20:35:08 (permalink)
I reinstalled . still not working.
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Re: metronome not in sync with tempo 2016/06/27 20:39:36 (permalink)
ill just have to use session drummer as my click track
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Re: metronome not in sync with tempo 2016/06/28 06:35:04 (permalink)
Is the problem similar with both audio and MIDI metronome?

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Re: metronome not in sync with tempo 2016/06/28 06:45:33 (permalink)
Did you delete old registry keys? This is for the latest version, but I believe that by changing name to SONAR 7 instead of Platinum you will clean up the registry for a new install.
https://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/2007013392/SONAR-2015-Clean-Install-Instructions
Hope it helps.
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Re: metronome not in sync with tempo 2016/06/28 14:08:37 (permalink)
whats the latest version now for Sonar?
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Re: metronome not in sync with tempo 2016/06/28 14:29:26 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Zargg71 2016/06/28 14:54:10
22.6.0.26

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Re: metronome not in sync with tempo 2016/06/28 14:32:33 (permalink)
The latest version(s) of SONAR (2016) are, Artist, Professional and Platinum (from smallest, to biggest).
I would think that the installation would leave remnants in registry whichever version.
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