polarbear
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Blog about My Genre
Hey Guys, I don't know how many of you have checked out the site Every Noise At Once (it's a really cool experiment to show all kind of genres and how they interconnect), but I just wrote a blog about it and my music and what it taught me about my music. I think it's something a lot of you guys would dig so figured I'd share. http://www.bydavidrosen.com/2016/06/29/my-genre-of-music/ Enjoy.
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Re: Blog about My Genre
2016/07/01 13:40:51
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Always enjoyed your work on the Songs forum David, interesting read. Mind-boggling amount of genres these days.
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2016/07/01 15:16:34
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jamesg1213 Always enjoyed your work on the Songs forum David, interesting read. Mind-boggling amount of genres these days.
Mind-boggling indeed. I will take some time to try to understand the mapping. In my heyday in the early 1970's the pundits had not yet come to terms with the ever changing music and classified things into hundreds of genres. If i remember correctly alongside the more established Soul, Reggae, Folk and Rock and Roll bins most of what has become a zillion genres of prog, rock, metal etc was all filed under "Contempory" in most record shops. Here is a conscise artical on the sub-genres of "Prog" http://www.gepr.net/genre2.html
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polarbear
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Re: Blog about My Genre
2016/07/01 18:12:24
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Glyn Barnes In my heyday in the early 1970's the pundits had not yet come to terms with the ever changing music and classified things into hundreds of genres. If i remember correctly alongside the more established Soul, Reggae, Folk and Rock and Roll bins most of what has become a zillion genres of prog, rock, metal etc was all filed under "Contempory" in most record shops.
I work in a record shop (my family's) and I can just imagine if we had to bother breaking it down into even 1/100th of all these genres haha.
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2016/07/01 18:14:05
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jamesg1213 Always enjoyed your work on the Songs forum David, interesting read. Mind-boggling amount of genres these days.
Thanks! Yea, it's crazy how deep it goes. It still makes me laugh that some of the genres I looked up on Google I couldn't even find. It's like people are coming up with their own genres for their music. That takes balls haha. I'm always so worried people won't find my music if it's not categorized perfectly (which is impossible to do anyway nowadays haha)
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2016/07/02 01:02:57
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As (over) told elsewhere, I studied genres, subgenres and styles to help me categorize all the new music I was about to import to a new media player. There were over 1,400 that I analyzed. If I had a record store now, I would have 27 categories: A thru Z plus everything else!
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2016/07/02 11:51:25
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Haha A-Z plus everything else. Nice and easy :-) Hmm... Let me think about our store... Rock, Soul, Blues, Gospel, Soundtrack, Country, Male Vocal, Female Vocal, Instrumental, Orchestral, Oldies, Rockabilly, Surf, 12" Dance / Electronic, Rap, Exotica, Spoken Word, Comedy, Kids Stuff, Picture Discs... I'm drawing a blank any further than that... Might have a few more sections around haha.
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2016/07/02 11:52:15
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polarbear
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2016/07/02 11:57:22
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I really think it's an especially complex thing for someone like me who makes instrumental music in really a variety of genres that technically all are "electronic music" (at most I add a real guitar in but otherwise it's all synths/samples played by a keyboard) but rarely are tracks with a beat meant for dancing to. I can't tell you guys how many people ask me what kind of music I make and my normal answer is "electronica" with an a and they say "Oh cool you're a DJ?" haha. It's a problem made all the more worse because I live in Las Vegas haha. "Do you spin your mixes at one of the casinos?" No actually i try to make really beautiful music with big lush arrangements that you can just close your eyes and drift away to from the comfort of your couch... No dancing or cover charge involved :-)
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2016/07/02 13:54:45
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Yeah, you end up with some of the following labels: Ambient, Art Rock, Avant-Garde, Chill Out, Downtempo, Electro, Electronica, Experimental, Instrumental, Minimal, Minimalism, New Age, Orchestral, Soundscape, Synth-Pop or Symphonic. All before adding any perceived style like fusion, progressive, trip hop, etc.! The definitions for my own music collection are still being finalized, but I'm starting with four primary categories: - Classical Music - Easy Listening & Holiday (mostly inherited from my parents) - Electronic (I don't use the term "Electronica" so this is where anything electronic or Psytrance goes) - Music (for all music that doesn't fall into one of the other three main categories) Someday I should probably add genres, subgenres and styles to the Classical Music category (like "Baroque," "String Quartet," "Requiem" or "Piano") and, quite frankly, I really don't care for most of the stuff in the Easy Listening & Holiday category but, for the other two categories, I use about two dozen primary "genres" for each. Then, all the extra, weird subgenres and styles (like death metal, shoegazing, math rock, psy breaks, etc.) get put into a subgenre field that I can search later to make playlists from. Note that I consider "Metal," "Progressive" and "Rock" to be primary genres, but "Progressive Metal" or "Progressive Rock" would be subgenres. I'm sure I'll tighten things up a bit once all my music has been imported (so far over 170,000 songs out of over 300,000 are in), but this is working well for now.
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2016/07/02 13:57:42
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The hardest thing for me is figuring out where to put all my Michael Jackson. My soul section or my big general music section where all the different forms of rock and pop goes haha.
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2016/07/02 14:17:00
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*Pfft...* That's an easy one. He is called the "King of Pop," isn't he? Groups that either change their primary genre or simply play lots of hard-to-define genres are the tougher choices. Tangerine Dream, for example, could fit in a bunch of areas (from some of the best acid music, to film scores, to EDM, to some of the best soaring guitar, etc.). The main benefit I've noticed that a computer-based media collection has over a physical one is that I CAN put Michael Jackson into more than one place (dance, soul, pop for example). So when I can't decide if I should put something in "A" or "B," I just put it in "A" AND in "B." I don't know if you do this in your record store, but I remember one down in Southern California that had these record-sized pieces of white cardboard and would use them in alternate areas. Using your example, they would have one in the Soul area that would say "Looking for Michael Jackson? Check the Pop area!"
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2016/07/02 14:19:05
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polarbear I can't tell you guys how many people ask me what kind of music I make and my normal answer is "electronica" with an a and they say "Oh cool you're a DJ?"
Meant to comment on that earlier. I would reply with something like "No, most DJ's only play music, I create it so they have something to use."
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2016/07/02 14:24:22
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craigb
polarbear I can't tell you guys how many people ask me what kind of music I make and my normal answer is "electronica" with an a and they say "Oh cool you're a DJ?"
Meant to comment on that earlier. I would reply with something like "No, most DJ's only play music, I create it so they have something to use." 
Haha and then just drop a mic and walk out of there.
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2016/07/02 14:26:51
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craigb I don't know if you do this in your record store, but I remember one down in Southern California that had these record-sized pieces of white cardboard and would use them in alternate areas. Using your example, they would have one in the Soul area that would say "Looking for Michael Jackson? Check the Pop area!"
We actually do that not for artists that are filed in different genres, but for artists that we have so much of that it ran us out of room in the main section. Like The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, The Who, Jimi Hendrix, people like that... Our A-Z of Rock goes all around one room of the store (the Rock room), but then in the middle of the room is a big browser bin where we pulled out those artists to free up space in the main A-Z section... We have a lot of stuff haha.
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Re: Blog about My Genre
2016/07/03 04:06:51
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I read a review of the latest Mouletts album where the reviewer seemed to be confused as he could hear four distinct genres, and it was only the first song.
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Re: Blog about My Genre
2016/07/03 07:23:57
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Glyn Barnes I read a review of the latest Mouletts album where the reviewer seemed to be confused as he could hear four distinct genres, and it was only the first song.
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polarbear
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Re: Blog about My Genre
2016/07/03 10:35:09
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