sausy1981
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Nightmare scenario....
Hi guys, Well I've encountered a nightmare scenario, Last night, working on a mix, the T.V. I use as a pc monitor began sparking and went off, I then couldn't use my pc with a normal pc monitor, Brought it to the guy in the pc repair shop and he said either the graphics card is gone or the motherboard, either way I will get my pc back with nothing on it, i.e. no Sonar, no Plugins, no Addictive drums 2. It's a bit of a bummer as the machine also had X3 installed and I'm not sure if I'll lose stuff from that. Anyhow, I presume I will have to do a fresh install of everything, but I'm worried about a few things like Addictive drums and my Slate plugs, I have my Ilock2 and I imagine that's ok. Has anyone got any advice about how I should re-install everything when I get the pc back, Talking to the guy he told me that if the motherboard is gone it will have a new I.D. not sure if this will cause problems. Any help appreciated, Andrew
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Re: Nightmare scenario....
2016/07/05 09:03:57
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Had probs like that ca 2 years back. Not a big problem other than a complete reinstall, which is in my case much work. Had no problems to install all of my plugins with a new system ID, most brands offer multiple registrations authorizations aso. But this scenario was a reminder for me to do back ups reguarly , cause I lost one of my best songs. And I lok 2 worked flawless. If you haven´t already done so, it´s the chance to upgrade to Win 10. regards
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Re: Nightmare scenario....
2016/07/05 10:13:21
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Install oldest version(s) first. With AD you'll have to go on their website, "unregister" your old pc and register the new one.
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Re: Nightmare scenario....
2016/07/05 10:22:59
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downloading, reinstalling and reactivating software is the easy part. I would be more concerned about the project files, recordings, accumulated samples and custom presets that are gone for good assuming you did not have multiple internal/external hard drives...
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Re: Nightmare scenario....
2016/07/05 10:29:58
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I am confused by the OP. Did you try the internal drive(s) in another machine yet? That specific "lost everything" is highly questionable. If an SSD, then it is possible, but a HDD is unlikely even if it toasted the controller card (magnetic media actually must be written to to erase it).
post edited by mettelus - 2016/07/05 10:51:41
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Re: Nightmare scenario....
2016/07/05 10:58:13
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Yah I'm with Metteius. Even if it was the motherboard there's a chance the drives are intact, which means you can replace some core components and be back up and running.
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Re: Nightmare scenario....
2016/07/05 11:56:55
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I would honestly go straight to another repair shop for both such a vague diagnosis "either the graphics card or the motherboard" and such severe measures (giving the PC back with nothing on it). Neither are reasonable from a paid service by professionals.
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sausy1981
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Re: Nightmare scenario....
2016/07/05 15:53:14
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Sorry guys I wasn't that clear in my original post. I didn't lose any projects, samples or files. Just all my installed software will be gone. Gonna be a days work reinstalling everything. Thanks for the replies.
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Re: Nightmare scenario....
2016/07/05 16:39:46
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OK - MUCH better picture painted with the improved clarity on the situation. I was about to launch into complete concurrence with those above who advised that your data files were most likely recoverable. Never mind...... Anything connected to your Cakewalk account should be able to be downloaded and installed again, as should most any plugin you bought from any place where you had to create an account. There may be some process of transfer from the old PC's unique ID to the new one, but that shouldn't be much more than annoying to go through for a day or 2 to get sorted out. VERY happy your project files and personal data have survived. The other thing I would question is what had happened that fried both your TV and your motherboard (IF both are indeed toast). I am HOPING you have some sort of surge protection on a power strip, otherwise something would seem really wrong with the electrical situation. I would DEFINITELY have a look at what could fry multiple components like that. (again, IF motherboard too is gone). Is there any chance you have either extended warranties on the TV and possibly the motherboard, OR are either covered under the manufacturer's warranty? Bob Bone
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sausy1981
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Re: Nightmare scenario....
2016/07/05 17:01:31
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Hi, Thanks. I have everything surge protected but I think something shorted on the tv's board and it damaged the pc through the hdmi cable. I won't know for a few days what's wrong with the pc. Hoping its not the motherboard. A clean reinstallation of all my software is gonna be a pain in the arse
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Re: Nightmare scenario....
2016/07/06 21:14:31
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How old is this system? Even if it IS the motherboard, if you could replace with the same model (and preferably same revision of the hardware), there would really be nothing to do but put your OS drive back in (assuming it was not damaged), put your data drives back in, and carry on. While it's not always a great case, Windows has even gotten better in most recent revisions at dealing with hardware like a new motherboard with the same Windows install, where it used to be a complete mess. I don't really recommend the route of just putting your drive in dissimilar hardware, but you might at least be able to get a system up to get settings, serials, etc. If you have to replace just a video card or something, that should be no big deal. As above, if you can get the same model of MB to replace with, you should be able to just put it in and move along. FWIW: I do this for a living. Not really for DAW systems, but for Small Business PCs and servers. As mentioned above, a vague answer and no remedy other than a wiped system is not a great answer. In the case of a simple business system, we rarely do a lot of troubleshooting because they are so inexpensive to replace and in the case of a reinstall, it's generally cheaper for the customer to have it just wiped and rebuilt, but in the case of a custom system like this, we would definitely look a little deeper before just writing it off.
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John6528
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Re: Nightmare scenario....
2016/07/06 21:44:40
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If you have a usb windows 10 recovery thumb drive you can try this... worked twice for me. Put the old disk drive in a new machine along with the recovery thumb. Boot to the recovery drive. Do a restore of the old drive saving everything and the recovery drive will get everything working for you including your programs in the new machine. Pretty simple. The thumb seems to see all the new hardware and include it with your programs. From your description your drive wasn't injured at all, just the tv or whatever. I didn't read everything so might be mistaken. If you don't have a recovery thumb borrow someone else's. John
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Re: Nightmare scenario....
2016/07/06 21:45:39
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If you have a usb windows 10 recovery thumb drive you can try this... worked twice for me. Put the old disk drive in a new machine along with the recovery thumb. Boot to the recovery drive. Do a restore of the old drive saving everything and the recovery drive will get everything working for you including your programs in the new machine. Pretty simple. The thumb seems to see all the new hardware and include it with your programs. From your description your drive wasn't injured at all, just the tv or whatever. I didn't read everything so might be mistaken. If you don't have a recovery thumb borrow someone else's. John
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sausy1981
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Re: Nightmare scenario....
2016/07/07 13:36:53
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Thanks for the help guys, I have sent the pc to the repair place, will be a few days, they will try everything to get me back up and running with the least amount of inconvenience so fingers crossed it works out in the end, All my work is ok and worst case scenario is a fresh install of all my programs and plugins. Thanks again, Andrew
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Re: Nightmare scenario....
2016/07/07 17:56:11
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Still seems odd that they would even suggest that all the applications and OS would need to be re-installed. I lost a motherboard a few years ago. I decided to upgrade my processor at the time so I installed new (and different) motherboard, CPU and memory. I connected my system drive and projects drive to the MB and after some configuration, it booted right up. Your repair seems much less intrusive, unless there was damage to the drive.
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Re: Nightmare scenario....
2016/07/08 00:18:19
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☄ Helpfulby tlw 2016/07/09 11:31:28
88% of the PC repair shops out there have not advanced beond Xp 32 bit systems. You get the job if you can look the part and answer 2 questions correctly. What does RAM mean? What is a mouse?
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Re: Nightmare scenario....
2016/07/08 07:14:29
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I had that happen last year, when my PC BSOD'd. I had no problems reinstalling anything, and it was very simple to unregister the old installations. This type of things happen often, the vendors are used to it. And Cakewalk makes it very simple by having all the download links in one place. I actually appreciated having to reinstall everything, it gave me a chance to NOT install all the things I never use.
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