AnsweredFocusrite Scarlett 6i6 New Generation & SONAR Platinum

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2016/07/09 18:13:25 (permalink)

Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 New Generation & SONAR Platinum

Anyone has any experience with the Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 New Generation?  I had the earlier version of the Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 and everything was working fine.  Since I've upgraded the playback works; however, the keyboard produce no sound when I select a track and play.  On the back of the Focusrite I have the output of the Roland RD-300 NX plugged into Line Input 3 and Line Outputs 1 & 2 going to the monitors.  In SONAR the setup says
 
Input Drivers
Focusrite USB ASIO Input 1
Focusrite USB ASIO Input 3
Focusrite USB ASIO SPDIF 1
(All are checked)
 
Output Drivers
Focusrite USB ASIO Output 1
Focusrite USB ASIO Output 3
Focusrite USB ASIO Output 5
(All are checked)
 
What is wrong here???
 
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Re: Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 New Generation & SONAR Platinum 2016/07/09 18:34:25 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby rgturner 2016/07/10 00:33:40
I don't have a keyboard but I just plugged my mp3 player into the back of my gen2 6i6 and managed to record audio from it (using "Left Focusrite USB Asio Input 3" as the source).  Does anything show up on the "Analogue 3" meter within the Focusrite Control app?  Does the same keyboard work if you use one of the front inputs?
 
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Re: Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 New Generation & SONAR Platinum 2016/07/09 23:13:15 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby rgturner 2016/07/10 00:33:29
Sounds like you need to verify the Focusrite MixControl (or whatever it's called for second generation interfaces) is routed for DAW use.
post edited by rivers88 - 2016/07/09 23:37:00
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Re: Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 New Generation & SONAR Platinum 2016/07/10 00:14:44 (permalink)
Thank you both for your replies.  I had two things not configured correctly.
 
a. I selected the Analogue + Digital preset (I love how they spell Analog ) and tweaked it for my specs.
b. I then saved it as a snapshot for future use.
c. In SONAR I forgot  to select the Focusrite USB MIDI In under MIDI -> Devices.
d. In SONAR I unchecked all Audio Devices -> Input Drivers except for Focusrite USB ASIO Input 3 (That's the ONLY one I use)
 
Once I did these things, like magic everything works!
 
Again, thank you all for your input.
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Re: Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 New Generation & SONAR Platinum 2016/07/10 00:20:19 (permalink)
Just an added thought.  Focusrite Support told me we cannot use the new generation mix software on the older generation Scarlett units.  This is going to make it harder to answer questions like this, where we cannot see the software being used.

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Re: Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 New Generation & SONAR Platinum 2016/07/10 03:22:37 (permalink)
Analogue is the correct spelling. Analog is the Americanization. Same as programme and program.

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Re: Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 New Generation & SONAR Platinum 2016/07/10 04:30:43 (permalink)
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Analogue is the correct spelling. Analog is the Americanization. Same as programme and program.


Not to mention 'dialogue.' ;)

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Re: Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 New Generation & SONAR Platinum 2016/07/10 05:52:36 (permalink)
Hi
What Is the difference between the new Focusrite 6i6 to the older one .
I shouldn't think there Is much difference.
My Original Scarelett 6i6 Is 100%.No need to upgrade unless Focusrite stopped supporting It.
 
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Re: Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 New Generation & SONAR Platinum 2016/07/10 06:12:22 (permalink)
igiwigi
 
What Is the difference between the new Focusrite 6i6 to the older one .
I shouldn't think there Is much difference.
 



According to the manual:
 
"In developing the Second Generation series of Scarlett interfaces, we have enhanced both the  performance and feature set including support for sample rates up to 192 kHz, improved mic preamp  performance with low noise and plenty of gain, and upgraded instrument inputs with additional  headroom for recording the loudest guitar parts without clipping."
 
I never had a first generation model so I can't comment on how true any of that is.
 
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Re: Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 New Generation & SONAR Platinum 2016/07/10 10:26:05 (permalink)
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 What Is the difference between the new Focusrite 6i6 to the older one .
I shouldn't think there Is much difference.
 



According to the manual:
 
"In developing the Second Generation series of Scarlett interfaces, we have enhanced both the  performance and feature set including support for sample rates up to 192 kHz, improved mic preamp  performance with low noise and plenty of gain, and upgraded instrument inputs with additional  headroom for recording the loudest guitar parts without clipping."
 
I never had a first generation model so I can't comment on how true any of that is.
 
AMB
 



Another new feature -- and this is a biggie if you're a heavy MIDI user -- much lower latencies. 
 
All in all, an incredible jump in features.  The 18i8 is on my "to buy" list: A great-sounding, USB2 interface with RTL in the 4-7 ms range, two headphone jacks, and ADAT optical-in (for 8 more channels of say, drums) for $350?  That's insane!
 
The software bundle is ridiculously generous too.  I paid $60 (and that was a deal!) for the Softube Drawmer S73 plugin... and it's included free with the new Scarletts!
 
Sorry to sound like a commercial, but I think this new line is a definite game-changer in the market. 

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Re: Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 New Generation & SONAR Platinum 2016/07/10 11:10:42 (permalink)
I also use 6i6 first gen. With beta drivers it works like a charm, i.e. runs at 64 samples

Does the 2nd gen Scarlett really have lower latency?

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Re: Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 New Generation & SONAR Platinum 2016/07/10 12:22:06 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Soundwise 2016/07/10 13:23:42
Soundwise
 
Does the 2nd gen Scarlett really have lower latency?



That's one of the claims (I don't have mine yet so can't test it):
 
* Super-low roundtrip latency was measured at 2.74ms, working at 96kHz with a 32 samples buffer on Logic Pro X, running on a Mac Pro and OS 10.11.
 
Obviously YMMV, based on your own setup and settings, but I've seen reports of between 5 to 8ms RTL at 44khz, so yeah, better performance over the 1st gen.
 
None of this is to knock the first gen Scarletts in any way, as they are solid performers. In fact, now's a great time to buy one at a discount as the stores clear them out for the new stock. 
 
The other obvious advantage of the 1st gen is that they're time-tested and solid.  A few 2nd gen users have reported driver issues, so personally I am waiting another month or two before I buy to allow Focusrite to sort those out.
 
Interestingly, I read that Focusrite intends to update the first gen drivers to improve their latency (Presumably with what they've learned developing the 2nd gen), so all Scarlett users benefit from the new tech.

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Re: Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 New Generation & SONAR Platinum 2016/07/10 13:11:06 (permalink)
Thanks, JonD. Currently, the best reason to get a 2nd gen Scarlett seems to be their plugin suite. When their will be measurements of better performance of new preamps and RTL in public domain, then more users may consider hardware upgrade. As of now, I'm content with 1st gen performance, but it's good to know Focusrite is going to update drivers.

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Re: Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 New Generation & SONAR Platinum 2016/07/13 09:53:07 (permalink)
 I was thinking about getting a 6i6 gen 2 since Focusrite indicates that it has low latency (for a USB interface) but was wondering what latency users were experiencing in the field. 
 
Note: I am currently using an older Firewire unit (Saffire LE) which some have found to be unreliable in Win 10 so I'm looking for a replacement.  The LE has a round trip latency of around 7-8 ms on my Win 7 system.
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Re: Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 New Generation & SONAR Platinum 2016/07/13 10:52:34 (permalink)
Soundwise
I also use 6i6 first gen. With beta drivers it works like a charm, i.e. runs at 64 samples

Does the 2nd gen Scarlett really have lower latency?


I can get to 4ms with generation one.The box Is faultless.
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Re: Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 New Generation & SONAR Platinum 2016/07/13 18:30:43 (permalink)
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Re: Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 New Generation & SONAR Platinum 2016/07/13 21:46:11 (permalink)
Ya , I get the same as Soundwise areound 7.5 to 9 RTL. But that's at 44.1. This goes down if you use the higher sample rates. On my system it becomes unstable so I don't go there. RTL does not matter to me because I do not use guitar sims and I monitor analog before the signal even goes to the Scarlett so I'm zero latency as far as that goes. 
 
Good news if the improve the drivers but I actually have had no problems since the last update came out. Soundwise,, why are you using the beta? 

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Re: Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 New Generation & SONAR Platinum 2017/01/13 16:00:26 (permalink)
I'm using 18i20 2nd gen. so I'm listening in for ins/outs. I've had some successes and part was correctly routing within the focusrite routing.

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Re: Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 New Generation & SONAR Platinum 2017/01/13 19:04:58 (permalink)
I have had the first generation 2i2 and 18i6.

I now have the second generation 2i2 and two 18i8s.

Although I was satisfied with the first generations, I figured if I could sell my 1st gen units on Craigslist for a decent figure, I could upgrade to the second gens for not that much. Which is what I did.

The second gens are way faster. Noticeable. Totally satisfied.

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Re: Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 New Generation & SONAR Platinum 2017/01/14 07:27:23 (permalink)
I run 1 18I8 (upgrading soon to the 1820) and the 4 pre amps are simply not enough anymore.
I went from a 2 pres to a 4 pres because for the user who simply records by himself, 2 mic pre amps are fine.
But for recording drums, I have to share a mic pres with the 2 toms (hi + mid toms).
So essentially im using 1 mic pre amp for kick, 1 for snare, 1 for hi and mid toms and 1 for low tom.
 
I will say this, ive been very happy with the sound of the Focusrite scarlet mic pres' but if you really want pristine quality, I suggest the ISA 1's. or the Claret's. in my case I just need more pre amps so the 1820 will do.

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