Clone, upgrade, or buy old.

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July 09, 16 3:32 PM (permalink)

Clone, upgrade, or buy old.

I've been using Sonar 7 for many years now, and I'm getting a bit anxious about what happens if my older Sony laptop croaks.  I have an S7 copy on another computer, but it's also old. 
 
My choices seem to be this:
- buy old Sonar CDs on ebay.  
- buy the newest Sonar version which is compatible with my old CW 16-track MIDI files.
- clone my harddrive.
 
What say you?
 
 
 
 
 
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    Anderton
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    Re: Clone, upgrade, or buy old. July 09, 16 3:45 PM (permalink)
    First you should clone your hard drive if that's where you keep your SONAR songs. Whether a newer machine will be able to make sense of the OS and registry settings is another matter, but at least you'll have your songs intact.

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    Re: Clone, upgrade, or buy old. July 09, 16 5:57 PM (permalink)
    Hi. If you still have your SONAR 7 discs, you could just install them again on your new pc. Cakewalk allows installing on more than one pc. If you have the disc, you are ok. But do backup / clone HD first.
    If you do not have the disc, you might want to check other options as you mentioned. 
    All the best.

    Ken Nilsen
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    2oldman
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    Re: Clone, upgrade, or buy old. July 09, 16 6:39 PM (permalink)
    I thought Sonar was only good for 2 machines.  Of course I back up my work files often.
     
    So what about the newer releases?
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    Re: Clone, upgrade, or buy old. July 09, 16 8:02 PM (permalink)
    I'm a clone n' upgrader
     
    DOS 6.1 -> 3.1 -> 95 -> 98 -> 2000 -> XP -> Win7 (via old laplink upgrade assistant) -> w10.
    Different boxes / motherboards along the way.
     
    It's crazy. :-)
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Clone, upgrade, or buy old. July 09, 16 8:07 PM (permalink)
    bitman
    I'm a clone n' upgrader
     
    DOS 6.1 -> 3.1 -> 95 -> 98 -> 2000 -> XP -> Win7 (via old laplink upgrade assistant) -> w10.
    Different boxes / motherboards along the way.
     
    It's crazy. :-)

     
    Gads I'm old... I remember all that. My First PC had dual 360kb diskette drives, and no hard drive - and that was upgrading from a TRS-80..... Been upgrading ever since.
     
    Anybody remember when they invented dirt?

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    Re: Clone, upgrade, or buy old. July 09, 16 8:45 PM (permalink)
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    bitman
    I'm a clone n' upgrader
     
    DOS 6.1 -> 3.1 -> 95 -> 98 -> 2000 -> XP -> Win7 (via old laplink upgrade assistant) -> w10.
    Different boxes / motherboards along the way.
     
    It's crazy. :-)

     
    Gads I'm old... I remember all that. My First PC had dual 360kb diskette drives, and no hard drive - and that was upgrading from a TRS-80..... Been upgrading ever since.
     
    Anybody remember when they invented dirt?




    Whoa... those were the days..... Not... well they were fun. But I didn't get into Sonar until Cakewalk Pro Audio 5

     
     
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    2oldman
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    Re: Clone, upgrade, or buy old. July 09, 16 10:26 PM (permalink)
    I love trips down memory lane too, but, will a cloned HD Vista work.. on anything?  
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    Re: Clone, upgrade, or buy old. July 10, 16 7:55 AM (permalink)
    2oldman
    I thought Sonar was only good for 2 machines.  Of course I back up my work files often.
     
    So what about the newer releases?


    It is. If your pc breaks, you still have the opportunity to install on the new one. Still using only 2 pc's And this I heard from the bakers themselves (in another thread some time ago). You cannot use them at the same time, is the only restriction. 
    The new line is in a whole other league. Bit of a learning curve, but man is it stable / cool on my end. By a far the best product Cakewalk has ever made, in my opinion.
    If you have the means, do the upgrade to lifetime Platinum member.
    All the best.

    Ken Nilsen
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    Re: Clone, upgrade, or buy old. July 10, 16 12:51 AM (permalink)
    Zargg71
    If you have the means, do the upgrade to lifetime Platinum member

    I don't know if I need to go that far.  I guess I'll just do more research of talk to CW directly.  thanks
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    Re: Clone, upgrade, or buy old. July 10, 16 1:41 PM (permalink)
    2oldman
    I thought Sonar was only good for 2 machines.  Of course I back up my work files often.
     
    So what about the newer releases?


    Every version of SONAR is licensed the same way. There in no restriction on the number of times SONAR may be installed. You are permitted to use one machine at a time but there is no problem installing on another machine.
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    Re: Clone, upgrade, or buy old. July 10, 16 2:34 PM (permalink)
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    Zargg71
    If you have the means, do the upgrade to lifetime Platinum member

    I don't know if I need to go that far.  I guess I'll just do more research of talk to CW directly.  thanks


    In the meantime, (if you have not already) check this page http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/Versions to compare what is accessable at this time.
    But if you do not need anything besides what you have, and everything is working to your expectations, you could stay with SONAR 7. The only issue(s) might be due to OS and perhaps (updated) Audio Interface drivers down the line.
    I would still say that if you have the means, do the upgrade. Even for no other reason (besides all the new features and bug fixes) than to easier get help as you are on a current version, which again will mean more people to help if issues should occur. 
    Anyway, I wish you the best of luck.

    Ken Nilsen
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    Re: Clone, upgrade, or buy old. July 10, 16 3:20 PM (permalink)
    SuperG
    Anybody remember when they invented dirt?

    Ah, yeah!  I was there!


     


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    Re: Clone, upgrade, or buy old. July 11, 16 7:12 AM (permalink)
    There will be a learning curve, but the new features certainly make upgrading worth it provided your audio interface can support Windows 10.
     
    Take a quick look at Sonar Explained over at Groove3:
    https://www.groove3.com/cakewalk-sonar-tutorials/SONAR-Explained
     
    Or you can download the demo here and just dive in to see if it will work for you.
    I am not sure if the new Sonar will work with your existing Sonar...Experts in using very old versions with new weigh in here.
     
    Things like Aux Tracks and Patch Points make life so much easier "in the box".  Parallel processing is a dream come true for me with Sonar.

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    Re: Clone, upgrade, or buy old. July 11, 16 7:37 AM (permalink)
    Backup to VHD file format. Then you can use it as a source for restore or a virtual machine/hard drive if you quickly want to get at the content.
     
    I've got projects that were created in Sonar 8.x and Sonar Platinum works fine with the old stuff for me. It will convert some stuff on import, though it may need some tidying up after a project is first imported.
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