BillWatkins
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My Wild and Wonderful Win 7 to Win 10 Upgrade Weekend
First, I will say I am definitely liking Sonar under Win 10 - no issues since I finally did get a successful Win 10 install - 'but what a strange trip it had been'
DAW is normally not on-line except for Updates and always with Win 7 'defender' and firewall enabled.
Last Win 7 update was in May so I decided to go get what else was there and then utilize the 'free Win 10' upgrade since Cake was mentioning that this would need to be done 'sooner or later' :)
4 'tries' Win 7 update failed, - error logs pointed to the darned 0x8007005 error
RAN every KB recovery known to man
Finally happened on to an article by Bit Tec Computers (UK) - posted on their forum and ran their suggestions, including a little program from 'tweaking.com'
The Tweaking 'repair' program sorted things out and subsequent Win 7 updates and Win 10 install sucessful
Apparently, there are issues in Win 7 where 'update' gets confused, corrupted, file permissions/ACLs get turned round, etc. Bunches of articles relating to this phenomena. I was dangerously close to formatting and reinstalling everything :) It was a JOYOUS experience. Total time - about 72 hours.
But again, I am really liking SPalt under Win 10 - other than the minor nuisance (and now corrected) of the Pace Licensing Service (East/West Libraries) not auto-starting.
Onward and Forward.
Best to All,
Bill -
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WallyG
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Re: My Wild and Wonderful Win 7 to Win 10 Upgrade Weekend
2016/07/25 13:34:24
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BillWatkins
... Total time - about 72 hours....
Wow... Bless you. 
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Re: My Wild and Wonderful Win 7 to Win 10 Upgrade Weekend
2016/07/25 14:27:18
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One issue was solved by creating a new user folder since the original became corrupt. In my frustration I named my new user folder as WTF. That worked.
Just upgraded my other machine last night. When upgrading W10 bypass the download updates that will hang or take forever.
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WallyG
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Re: My Wild and Wonderful Win 7 to Win 10 Upgrade Weekend
2016/07/25 14:49:38
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kitekrazy1
One issue was solved by creating a new user folder since the original became corrupt. In my frustration I named my new user folder as WTF. That worked.
Just upgraded my other machine last night. When upgrading W10 bypass the download updates that will hang or take forever.
Does WTF = "Windows Temporary Folder"... Walt
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Re: My Wild and Wonderful Win 7 to Win 10 Upgrade Weekend
2016/07/25 15:19:22
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I guess it does. Great name for it.
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TPayton
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Re: My Wild and Wonderful Win 7 to Win 10 Upgrade Weekend
2016/07/25 17:47:09
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I also had a little odyssey installing W10 on my 8.1 laptop. I decided to do the laptop to see how things went on it first. Then if all was well, install 10 on the studio machine.
It took several tries to install w10 over 2 days time. The installation would get to a certain point, and then the computer would just shut down in the middle of everything. Upon restarting the machine would automatically roll back to 8.1. I finally googled the problem and found that a lot of people were having this difficulty on laptops. It turned out to be an overheating issue. So I propped the laptop up in front of an AC vent, plugged it into ethernet, (instead of Wifi) to reduce download time, and everything went off without a hitch.
So as I am typing this Windows 10 is installing on the studio machine. So far it is going smoothly.
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Chregg
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Re: My Wild and Wonderful Win 7 to Win 10 Upgrade Weekend
2016/07/25 17:50:16
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still waiting on roland to get pcr 3/5/800 drivers together
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Del
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Re: My Wild and Wonderful Win 7 to Win 10 Upgrade Weekend
2016/07/25 18:23:34
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I updated from W 8.1 to W 10 over the weekend and for the most part things went smoothly, except that for some strange reason, W 10 doesn't recognize my second monitor. I read somewhere that it happened to someone and that they had to wait a day or two for Win 10 to update and that it eventually recognized the second monitor. I hope that, that happens to me.
I am using just one monitor now, I didn't realize how comfortable I have become with the two monitors and it seems odd not to have them both.....
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soundtweaker
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Re: My Wild and Wonderful Win 7 to Win 10 Upgrade Weekend
2016/07/25 19:36:09
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Chregg
still waiting on roland to get pcr 3/5/800 drivers together
They already work with Win10
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Sixfinger
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Re: My Wild and Wonderful Win 7 to Win 10 Upgrade Weekend
2016/07/25 20:19:47
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Finally happened on to an article by Bit Tec Computers (UK) - posted on their forum and ran their suggestions, including a little program from 'tweaking.com'
can you point to that article?
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Re: My Wild and Wonderful Win 7 to Win 10 Upgrade Weekend
2016/07/25 21:57:09
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BillWatkins
First, I will say I am definitely liking Sonar under Win 10 - no issues since I finally did get a successful Win 10 install - 'but what a strange trip it had been'
DAW is normally not on-line except for Updates and always with Win 7 'defender' and firewall enabled.
Last Win 7 update was in May so I decided to go get what else was there and then utilize the 'free Win 10' upgrade since Cake was mentioning that this would need to be done 'sooner or later' :)
4 'tries' Win 7 update failed, - error logs pointed to the darned 0x8007005 error
RAN every KB recovery known to man
Finally happened on to an article by Bit Tec Computers (UK) - posted on their forum and ran their suggestions, including a little program from 'tweaking.com'
The Tweaking 'repair' program sorted things out and subsequent Win 7 updates and Win 10 install sucessful
Apparently, there are issues in Win 7 where 'update' gets confused, corrupted, file permissions/ACLs get turned round, etc. Bunches of articles relating to this phenomena. I was dangerously close to formatting and reinstalling everything :) It was a JOYOUS experience. Total time - about 72 hours.
But again, I am really liking SPalt under Win 10 - other than the minor nuisance (and now corrected) of the Pace Licensing Service (East/West Libraries) not auto-starting.
Onward and Forward.
Best to All,
Bill -
Since we're trading Win 10 update stories, it didn't take me 72 hours, but it was surely a wasted weekend getting it done. My issue was that after the first failure of the Win 10 update, I could no longer access the BIOS on my Windows 7 to move ahead any further . . . I eventually found out Windows 10 didn't like that I had cloned my Win 7 OS to a newer larger SSD drive and left some remnants (UEFI) behind without reformatting the old SSD drive. Once I figured that out the upgrade finally worked. Then I had to deal with my 15 year old PCI audio interface that still "kind of worked" but crashed Sonar a lot . . . so I came to my senses and installed a USB interface that actually had Windows 10 drivers. All done, backed up, move ahead . . . though Sonar doesn't seem to run any differently for me on Windows 10 . . . I just traded my 4.3 msec round trip latency (PCI - 64 samples) for a 9.5 msec round trip latency (USB - 64 samples), no audible noticeable difference except for the lack of crashing.
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jb101
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Re: My Wild and Wonderful Win 7 to Win 10 Upgrade Weekend
2016/07/26 11:12:11
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☄ Helpfulby VanessaJ 2016/07/29 02:43:33
Really boring Windows 10 story-
I made sure Windows 7 was fully updated, ran the Windows 10 installer.
Not sure how long it took, as I went off and did something else.
When I returned it was all done. .
Did not even update any drivers ( interface = Soundcraft MTK, Cakewalk A-300Pro, Printer, etc, etc.).
Everything seems to be working well. Sonar running like a dream.
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BillWatkins
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Re: My Wild and Wonderful Win 7 to Win 10 Upgrade Weekend
2016/07/26 12:47:44
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Hi Sixfinger, The BritTec youtube link is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH3jJ1tpCDg at first they speak of the typical Win Update caching issue. Later in, they speak of the Update Repair using tweaking.com utility. Bill -
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WallyG
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Re: My Wild and Wonderful Win 7 to Win 10 Upgrade Weekend
2016/07/26 13:13:11
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TPayton
....I finally googled the problem and found that a lot of people were having this difficulty on laptops. It turned out to be an overheating issue. So I propped the laptop up in front of an AC vent, plugged it into ethernet, (instead of Wifi) to reduce download time, and everything went off without a hitch....
Probable normal dust build up over time preventing proper cooling. Had that happen to me on a 24" iMac and my Play Pen computer. Between using a vacuum cleaner and an air compressor, I made them better. Walt
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Chregg
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Re: My Wild and Wonderful Win 7 to Win 10 Upgrade Weekend
2016/07/26 13:21:15
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soundtweaker
Chregg
still waiting on roland to get pcr 3/5/800 drivers together
They already work with Win10
not for me they dont, either with upgrade or full install
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VanessaJ
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Re: My Wild and Wonderful Win 7 to Win 10 Upgrade Weekend
2016/07/29 02:38:28
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I'm with jb101 on this.
Updated to W10 about 6 weeks ago and, apart from getting used to little differences in the OS, I've had few issues. Sonar works pretty much just like below except for one stubborn plugin (Miroslav).
Had to re-register a couple of plugins, though, and my Miroslav Orchestra won't even open in Sonar anymore, even though I can run it as stand alone and all my other IK Multimedia plugins (Amplitube, SampleTank 3, etc) open in Sonar as always.
Eh ... looking to upgrade Miroslav to their new version anyway. Should work just fine.
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I think W7 is a better overall OS in my experience. Very similar to the good ol' XP. W10 seems built more for social media and gaming apps, and is a bit more limiting in how you can modify your files.
I'd revert back to W7, actually, if not for the fact that I know W10 is quick becoming the standard bearer for PC programing. Best to be ahead of the curve.
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