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Reverse Reverb Question
Hey, I'm going to be doing a reverse reverb and I was wondering if there is a short way to render and export an effects bus then import it back into a track? Seems like freezing may have the same effect?...can you freeze a bus? Thanks! Donny
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Re: Reverse Reverb Question
2016/07/27 14:13:08
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☄ Helpfulby doncolga 2016/07/27 18:28:15
Can't freeze a bus, there is nothing to freeze. Select the "Bounce to Track(s)" option from the Track menu, set the source category to Buses, select the bus and bounce it. Or record an Aux track.
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Re: Reverse Reverb Question
2016/07/27 14:25:24
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☄ Helpfulby dcumpian 2016/07/27 15:16:01
Alternative method: drag the portion of the audio you want effected into a new track. Apply reverb there, bounce and reverse. Trim to just the reverb tail if desired. Drag the reversed-reverb back into the original track and use slip-edits and crossfades to make the transition seamless. If you're using the effect more than once, you can often copy-and-paste that reverse-reverb clip to multiple places.
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Re: Reverse Reverb Question
2016/07/27 15:35:28
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thanks guys, much appreciated!
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Re: Reverse Reverb Question
2016/07/27 18:08:44
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Can't freeze a bus, there is nothing to freeze. Select the "Bounce to Track(s)" option from the Track menu, set the source category to Buses, select the bus and bounce it. Or record an Aux track.
I got it to work this way and very happy with the result. I've never used the bounce to track feature. Insanely handy. I do have a question though...I'm familiar with busses....but record on an aux track...how do you do that? Thanks! Donny
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Re: Reverse Reverb Question
2016/07/27 18:11:06
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Alternative method: drag the portion of the audio you want effected into a new track. Apply reverb there, bounce and reverse. Trim to just the reverb tail if desired. Drag the reversed-reverb back into the original track and use slip-edits and crossfades to make the transition seamless. If you're using the effect more than once, you can often copy-and-paste that reverse-reverb clip to multiple places.
I'm definitely going to try to place this in the other two parts of the tune. Want to be careful to use it sparsely. I could probably use the practice of actually rendering it for each spot, but my mix is due on Friday.
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Re: Reverse Reverb Question
2016/07/27 18:13:05
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I just saw the Aux track video...wow...another feature new to me.
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Re: Reverse Reverb Question
2016/07/27 20:00:26
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doncolga
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I could probably use the practice of actually rendering it for each spot, but my mix is due on Friday.
Sorry to go off-topic on your thread Don, but I can't think of any other music forum I have or still do participate in, where a professional on a deadline could post a question and quickly get enough sufficiently good and useful information to (I hope for you) complete on schedule. I love this forum!
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Re: Reverse Reverb Question
2016/07/28 10:36:41
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☄ Helpfulby doncolga 2016/07/28 11:32:31
Don, another method of creating a reverse reverb is is similar to Bitflipper's but different. Choose your clip, reverse first, then add reverb to the reversed clip, print the effect, then rereverse. The reverb will precede the signal and the signal will be going in the right direction. The Beatles and others used to do this with tape by turning the reels over and recording backward, and then flipping the reels back. So much easier in Sonar.
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Re: Reverse Reverb Question
2016/07/28 11:13:06
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doncolga
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I could probably use the practice of actually rendering it for each spot, but my mix is due on Friday.
Sorry to go off-topic on your thread Don, but I can't think of any other music forum I have or still do participate in, where a professional on a deadline could post a question and quickly get enough sufficiently good and useful information to (I hope for you) complete on schedule.
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Absolutely! This is a metal song and the reverse reverb type thing is what I was hearing in my head for the very last two phrases on each vocal chorus. I'm really happy with the results and totally appreciate the tips here. Donny
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Re: Reverse Reverb Question
2016/07/28 11:18:18
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I ended up sending Lynn
Don, another method of creating a reverse reverb is is similar to Bitflipper's but different. Choose your clip, reverse first, then add reverb to the reversed clip, print the effect, then rereverse. The reverb will precede the signal and the signal will be going in the right direction. The Beatles and others used to do this with tape by turning the reels over and recording backward, and then flipping the reels back. So much easier in Sonar.
I did it similar to this. I copied the section of the vocal I wanted it for and then reversed that and sent it to a bus with breverb on it. Then I rendered that reverb only bus to a track and reversed it and lined it up with the original like I wanted. I also put on some really wide pan automation on the reverse reverb part and automated delay on the very end of original track. I'll plan to put up a link to it so ya'll can give a listen.
post edited by doncolga - 2016/07/28 11:39:46
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Re: Reverse Reverb Question
2016/07/29 23:13:02
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Re: Reverse Reverb Question
2016/08/01 14:54:04
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Hey, that turned out pretty good, Donny!
Great mix overall, too; I listened both on laptop speakers and quality headphones and it translated well on both.
Here's an idea if you're in an experimental mood...how about throwing in a couple other reversals to complement the vocal effect? Not suggesting that you over-do it and run the gimmick into the ground, but there are many components that can benefit from the technique: snare drum, crash cymbals, guitars. I've even used it on hand claps.
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Re: Reverse Reverb Question
2016/08/02 16:12:06
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Hey, that turned out pretty good, Donny!
Great mix overall, too; I listened both on laptop speakers and quality headphones and it translated well on both.
Here's an idea if you're in an experimental mood...how about throwing in a couple other reversals to complement the vocal effect? Not suggesting that you over-do it and run the gimmick into the ground, but there are many components that can benefit from the technique: snare drum, crash cymbals, guitars. I've even used it on hand claps.
Hey, Thanks so much for listening! I certainly may do that...I could use more practice, hopefully so I won't forget how to do it. I've got at least one more mix due this week that kind of like a pop/RnB type thing, so I may use it there also. Thanks again! Donny
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Re: Reverse Reverb Question
2016/08/05 15:11:31
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"Choose your clip, reverse first, then add reverb to the reversed clip, print the effect, then rereverse"
@Lynn (or all) ----> what is "print the effect"?
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Re: Reverse Reverb Question
2016/08/05 15:42:29
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Re: Reverse Reverb Question
2016/08/06 16:49:36
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The kick and snare in this mix are out of balance. The kick is a little too loud and in your face while the snare sounds a little over compressed and a little too far back for my liking. Sounds like you have over compressed the snare more than likely. Snare drums are snappier than this in real life. Also the bass is too loud as well.
If you checked this mix on a small mono speaker down low all these things would stand out bigtime.
These are small niggles though overall the mix is pretty decent.
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Re: Reverse Reverb Question
2016/08/08 20:56:24
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Hey Jeff,
Thanks very much for the listen and comments. I appreciate it very much. I'll definitely take note of that and revisit this mix.
Donny
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