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Played out without recording ~ So much fun!
Sometimes I forget how much work goes into capturing recordings.
Last night, I left all that stuff at home and had an absolutely great time!
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Re: Played out without recording ~ So much fun!
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Hi,
I've always said that, just like my writing, sometimes you have to tell yourself ... I'm not recording and I'm just letting loose.
And it has to be "thrown" away, so that you learn to "let go" of ideas, and also teach yourself to concentrate on the important parts and details that help you "turn on" and just have some fun! When you match that to what you do, you will be a Road Runner, amidst a bunch of Willbe E. Coyote's!
Music is not about notes and chords! My poem is not about the computer or monitor or letters! It's about how I was able to translate it from my insides!
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Re: Played out without recording ~ So much fun!
2016/08/01 08:53:57
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Kinda like......
Well I won't go there but yeah.... it's such a great thing. Very "freeing" musically.
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Re: Played out without recording ~ So much fun!
2016/08/01 09:02:54
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A lot of work goes into doing your own recordings, and playing live with others is just liberating......one is all work and the other is all play? 
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Re: Played out without recording ~ So much fun!
2016/08/01 10:08:19
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All my best playing goes completely unrecorded (and unheard by anyone but me) 
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Re: Played out without recording ~ So much fun!
2016/08/01 10:14:47
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sharke
All my best playing goes completely unrecorded (and unheard by anyone but me)
BS. You are not the best judge for your own material, because, just like all of us creative folks, we're our own worst enemy and critics. As Pogo said ... "We's met dah en'my. It's us!" From a writing perspective, this is important. It takes away the idea that one moment you can and the next you can't. And it helps develop the idea of the whole piece together, and you learn to see it for what it is and how you relate to it. I have, a lot of small bits and pieces of poetry, like 3 or 4 lines, kinda just standing there, but they never show up anywhere else, until the minute I erase them and send them on their way back to the inventory line for creativity. Almost like clockwork, the next day, those set of words, sometimes just a verb moved, shows up somewhere else ... I end up feeling that we're not machines, and our internal and creative process can not be taken as some kind of mechanical exercise, because that will generally hurt it, not help it.
post edited by Moshkito - 2016/08/01 10:37:49
Music is not about notes and chords! My poem is not about the computer or monitor or letters! It's about how I was able to translate it from my insides!
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Re: Played out without recording ~ So much fun!
2016/08/01 12:29:14
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☄ Helpfulby SteveStrummerUK 2016/08/01 16:34:46
Moshkito
sharke
All my best playing goes completely unrecorded (and unheard by anyone but me)
BS. You are not the best judge for your own material, because, just like all of us creative folks, we're our own worst enemy and critics. As Pogo said ... "We's met dah en'my. It's us!"
From a writing perspective, this is important. It takes away the idea that one moment you can and the next you can't. And it helps develop the idea of the whole piece together, and you learn to see it for what it is and how you relate to it.
I have, a lot of small bits and pieces of poetry, like 3 or 4 lines, kinda just standing there, but they never show up anywhere else, until the minute I erase them and send them on their way back to the inventory line for creativity. Almost like clockwork, the next day, those set of words, sometimes just a verb moved, shows up somewhere else ... I end up feeling that we're not machines, and our internal and creative process can not be taken as some kind of mechanical exercise, because that will generally hurt it, not help it.
*Bzzzzzt!!!* Wrong again! With all due respect, you really need to learn context Pedro. (I'll ignore how you took a fun line posted in a musician forum, which actually applies to me too, and redirected it to be about writing and your works. You really should consider starting your own writing and review forum me thinks!)
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Re: Played out without recording ~ So much fun!
2016/08/01 12:46:41
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Moshkito
sharke
All my best playing goes completely unrecorded (and unheard by anyone but me)
BS. You are not the best judge for your own material, because, just like all of us creative folks, we're our own worst enemy and critics. As Pogo said ... "We's met dah en'my. It's us!"
From a writing perspective, this is important. It takes away the idea that one moment you can and the next you can't. And it helps develop the idea of the whole piece together, and you learn to see it for what it is and how you relate to it.
I have, a lot of small bits and pieces of poetry, like 3 or 4 lines, kinda just standing there, but they never show up anywhere else, until the minute I erase them and send them on their way back to the inventory line for creativity. Almost like clockwork, the next day, those set of words, sometimes just a verb moved, shows up somewhere else ... I end up feeling that we're not machines, and our internal and creative process can not be taken as some kind of mechanical exercise, because that will generally hurt it, not help it.
Moshkito is definitely incorrect here. :D:D J.D. Salinger used to spend HOURS laboring over just a few turns of phrase, or certain words. You could say that the garbage disposal was part of the process I guess. And as we all know...he wrote a bunch of stuff that he wanted published posthumously, suggesting as Moshkito denies that the creator not the audience is the best judge (or worst judge in the best sense of the phrase.) Being painfully perfectionistic can be hard on one's mental health, but it's very good for the oeuvre. No I'm not saying to be painfully perfectionistic about eggs. This leaves the question of whether it's necessary to be painfully perfectionistic over the details of production viz creation in music. In this forum alot of people seem to sweat a few db's here and a few mhz there. Is this really necessary? When I read SOS and other magazines, it seems most of the professional engineers laugh at that. (.) However it can be good to get correct feedback, as long as it's from the right people. You can get steered wrong from folks who are evil. We all know that the forums have many evil people. :D:D If you can surround yourself with people from whom an opinion matters, then you're in good shape.
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Re: Played out without recording ~ So much fun!
2016/08/01 13:34:13
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☄ Helpfulby SteveStrummerUK 2016/08/01 16:37:28
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All my best playing goes completely unrecorded (and unheard by anyone but me)
BS. You are not the best judge for your own material, because, just like all of us creative folks, we're our own worst enemy and critics. As Pogo said ... "We's met dah en'my. It's us!"
From a writing perspective, this is important. It takes away the idea that one moment you can and the next you can't. And it helps develop the idea of the whole piece together, and you learn to see it for what it is and how you relate to it.
I have, a lot of small bits and pieces of poetry, like 3 or 4 lines, kinda just standing there, but they never show up anywhere else, until the minute I erase them and send them on their way back to the inventory line for creativity. Almost like clockwork, the next day, those set of words, sometimes just a verb moved, shows up somewhere else ...
I end up feeling that we're not machines, and our internal and creative process can not be taken as some kind of mechanical exercise, because that will generally hurt it, not help it.
Pedro - do you post any of this stuff on poetry or creative writing forums? I'd love to read the responses.
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Re: Played out without recording ~ So much fun!
2016/08/01 15:17:50
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☄ Helpfulby sharke 2016/08/01 21:33:01
It's incredibly liberating to create something that you know will cease to exist the moment you do.
 All else is in doubt, so this is the truth I cling to. My Stuff
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Re: Played out without recording ~ So much fun!
2016/08/01 15:36:00
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Re: Played out without recording ~ So much fun!
2016/08/01 16:18:52
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☄ Helpfulby sharke 2016/08/01 21:33:12
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All my best playing goes completely unrecorded (and unheard by anyone but me)
BS. You are not the best judge for your own material, because, just like all of us creative folks, we're our own worst enemy and critics. As Pogo said ... "We's met dah en'my. It's us!"
From a writing perspective, this is important. It takes away the idea that one moment you can and the next you can't. And it helps develop the idea of the whole piece together, and you learn to see it for what it is and how you relate to it.
I have, a lot of small bits and pieces of poetry, like 3 or 4 lines, kinda just standing there, but they never show up anywhere else, until the minute I erase them and send them on their way back to the inventory line for creativity. Almost like clockwork, the next day, those set of words, sometimes just a verb moved, shows up somewhere else ...
I end up feeling that we're not machines, and our internal and creative process can not be taken as some kind of mechanical exercise, because that will generally hurt it, not help it.
Pedro - do you post any of this stuff on poetry or creative writing forums? I'd love to read the responses.
He probably talks about music on them 
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Re: Played out without recording ~ So much fun!
2016/08/01 16:24:06
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I'm so surprised that Strummy hasn't busted this one out yet. (Though he'll probably drag some ancient forum thread out of the archives to prove me wrong!) 
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Re: Played out without recording ~ So much fun!
2016/08/01 17:33:29
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bitflipper
It's incredibly liberating to create something that you know will cease to exist the moment you do.
I like this angle. Creation and destruction are two sides of the same coin. over and out! Btw it looks like Prince might have been sort of like Salinger in some ways..in that he has a trove of unpublished works. I've always wondered whether Paul Mcartney don't have a bunch of stuff as well. These geniuses can't just stop creating the minute they don't got an audience, do they?
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sharke
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Re: Played out without recording ~ So much fun!
2016/08/01 21:13:03
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Moshkito
sharke
All my best playing goes completely unrecorded (and unheard by anyone but me)
BS. You are not the best judge for your own material, because, just like all of us creative folks, we're our own worst enemy and critics. As Pogo said ... "We's met dah en'my. It's us!"
From a writing perspective, this is important. It takes away the idea that one moment you can and the next you can't. And it helps develop the idea of the whole piece together, and you learn to see it for what it is and how you relate to it.
I have, a lot of small bits and pieces of poetry, like 3 or 4 lines, kinda just standing there, but they never show up anywhere else, until the minute I erase them and send them on their way back to the inventory line for creativity. Almost like clockwork, the next day, those set of words, sometimes just a verb moved, shows up somewhere else ... I end up feeling that we're not machines, and our internal and creative process can not be taken as some kind of mechanical exercise, because that will generally hurt it, not help it.
Why can't I be the best judge of my own material? Absolutely no reason why I can't be.
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Re: Played out without recording ~ So much fun!
2016/08/01 21:15:04
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☄ Helpfulby craigb 2016/08/01 23:16:36
sharkeWhy can't I be the best judge of my own material? Absolutely no reason why I can't be. Excellent post!
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Re: Played out without recording ~ So much fun!
2016/08/01 21:16:41
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☄ Helpfulby michaelhanson 2016/08/01 22:30:29
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sharkeWhy can't I be the best judge of my own material? Absolutely no reason why I can't be.
Excellent post!
Why can't I mark my own posts as helpful? Total BS!
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Re: Played out without recording ~ So much fun!
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☄ Helpfulby sharke 2016/08/01 22:48:03
I did it for you.
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Re: Played out without recording ~ So much fun!
2016/08/01 22:28:47
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michaelhanson
I did it for you.
You've been a great help!
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Re: Played out without recording ~ So much fun!
2016/08/01 22:58:05
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Hey! I helped too!!!  
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Re: Played out without recording ~ So much fun!
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Re: Played out without recording ~ So much fun!
2016/08/01 23:17:43
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My general MO is to play 99 % of the time with out recording a peep ....
I have always done it this way for a number of reasons ...
I always feel very liberated to just enjoy connecting to my instrument while I'm playing it and reestablishing a direct link with my inner core self ...
I have been very fortunate that I'm always constantly getting flooded with new musical ideas ...
I tend to think in terms of abundance w the musical ideas so I have no need to to to cut the flow off ..
At times it may be true that I have forgotten a few inspired moments yet I have always been able to accept the ones that have gotten away ...for every one I have forgotten 2 or 3 new ones have come along as replacements
When in Doubt i may use my Gibson memory cable as a means of capturing ideas
I have never pre planed what I'm gonna play when I'm recording and cutting guitar solo's in my own music or collabs .....same goes for the u tube video performances I've done ....
I play usually no less than 2 hours a day ...most of the time it's closer to 6 or 8 hrs ..spread out
I didn't spend my whole life playing the guitar and music to end up being chained to a computer just like an office worker in a cubicle ...
I use my computer the most for transcribing music ...right now I'm doing some Miles Davis horn solo's and Joe Diorio ....
I like to take 4 to 8 bars of music I'm learning and use it for a spring board to create my own Ideas ...
Every time I take something I like I will play it in a number of keys and different octaves ...
I find that process to be quite liberating and it always reinforces my connection to my instrument ...in addition to that it swings the creativity door wide open ...
My general philosophy is to always invest my time in my playing first ...If every thing I know on a social level ceases to exist and I have to go out in the woods and play with a bunch of dudes banging on logs in a drum circle next to a bonfire ......
I could roll with that as long as I have my acoustic guitar and a few packs of strings with me...
all the best ,
Kenny
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Re: Played out without recording ~ So much fun!
2016/08/03 10:28:49
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eph221
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This leaves the question of whether it's necessary to be painfully perfectionistic over the details of production viz creation in music. In this forum alot of people seem to sweat a few db's here and a few mhz there. Is this really necessary? When I read SOS and other magazines, it seems most of the professional engineers laugh at that.
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That's why they are "engineers" and not writers, or musicians, or artists. Basically, what you just said means that you, and some folks here, do not trust the implications of a free form exercise, regardless of where it is and comes from. So "Naked Lunch" was defined by each word like Salinger? Or Miles Davis was writing every note? The majority of the works in the mid 20th century were so free form for a reason ... and they helped usher a long line of theater, film, music, art that has stood the test of time, and place, and yet ... it is not trusted and we think that the intuitive instinct is wrong and has to be thought out! That is just plain wrong, regardless of whatever discipline you are talking about. It's a shame you folks never got to see things like "The Living Theater", or pure free form music and stuff that would trip your ears and mouths. Maybe I should tape Art Bears and Slapp Happy to your ears. Listen to Eno, and most of the free form folks and experimenting people out there. It's less about the so-called and ego idea of "perfection", than it is about simply doing it, and as time goes by, your expression gets better and cleaner. Just admit it ... you guys are scared poop'less of total free form and then some? So you really think that Burroughs gave a damn about how one word fell on his page? You obviously have not been reading much I should say, and while I do not dislike Salinger, to me he is a secondary writer, and not a main line creative artist. That's not to say that trying to be "perfect" with the words is not important, but telling that to Aldous Huxley, he will probably laugh so hard and cry right after it. What's the point of "The Doors of Perception", and "Heaven and Hell", or anything else? Are you guys stuck in Narcissus and Goldmund? You have any idea what the "Magic Theater" is?
Music is not about notes and chords! My poem is not about the computer or monitor or letters! It's about how I was able to translate it from my insides!
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Re: Played out without recording ~ So much fun!
2016/08/03 12:01:09
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Moshikito, that sounds like a rationalization. But then again, I'm rationalizing my own style so we'll just agree to disagree. :D
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Re: Played out without recording ~ So much fun!
2016/08/03 13:54:24
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I've recorded without playing before. This sounds far more refreshing. 
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Re: Played out without recording ~ So much fun!
2016/08/04 22:43:07
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Playing and singing live reminds me how much I rely on studio tricks to make me sound like I'm more competent than I really am.
All else is in doubt, so this is the truth I cling to. My Stuff
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Re: Played out without recording ~ So much fun!
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