Does Sonar load projects faster if vst's are frozen?

Would Sonar load projects much quicker if all vst's were frozen, or is it just the track data that is frozen and no time saving is to be had? Again I am thinking of using it live..
 
Thanks

35 people have looked and no-one has any sort of response?
Didn't realise it was such a tough question that has everyone stumped!

joden
35 people have looked and no-one has any sort of response?
Didn't realise it was such a tough question that has everyone stumped!

Well your first post is a little incomplete. meaning,
1- have you tried it yourself yet?
2- have you already tried it and want to know others thoughts on it ?
 
the first answer would be easy, load it up and test it out and you could answer your own question.
the second, I find projects containing mostly audio load faster than projects that contain soft synths and sometimes a lot of FX.
however, I haven't found freezing tracks to speed up load time, only to free up more CPU power.
because even though the tracks have been bounced per say (frozen) it seems sonar still loads the VST's the same as if they were loading them in a project using those VST's.
 
essentially on paper it appears it should speed up the load time, I just haven't seen it and my projects load rather quickly (10-15 seconds)
 
hope this helped.
 

Thank you tenfoot, chuck and bapu :-)

Yes, so long as you have 'Unload Synths on Disconnect' enabled (the default) in synth properties, frozen synths will not be loaded into RAM on opening the project which will save time, depending on how big the synth's footprint is. A true 'synthesizer' may not use much RAM, but most of what are referred to today as 'synths' are sample players, and if they load samples in RAM, as opposed to streaming them from disk, loading projects that use them could save a significant amount of time as noynekker confirmed.

Loads little more quickly, because Sonar does't have to load all he samples for frozen tracks, also less Tax for the CPU... the only disadvantage is that the project increase its size because the size of the Wav file  generated from each frozen Vst Instrument

joden
Cool, that's terrific. Maybe Splat can be used live then, instead of going through the process of creating MP3s. Means if I want to tweak a part or indeed drop it totally, I can do this at will, even just temp changes on the night, so to speak.
 

That makes sense from your point of view ... you now have some flexibility ...at your gig ...
 
Another thing to consider ..which has nothing to do with your topic , yet it can turn out to be a nice little time saver for you at your gig
 
If you happen to have a set or a  group of tunes that you have played in a row really fast at your gig due to folks wanting to stay out on the dance floor for example ..
You may want to consider setting up a project in SONAR that consists of mixes of tunes that are battle tested and proven to have kept you happy ...
 
Here is what i mean by that is this ..
 
Create one SONAR audio project , take a few tunes that are mixed to your satisfaction , place your Songs / Mix's at
bar one or a few seconds down the time line ...make sure you have your songs titles in the tracks ..
What I mean by that is everything starting at the projects beginning ..not a bunch of tunes along the time line ...I have a reason 
You may even decide to color code the tracks backgrounds to be able to recognize the genre...
Red could be Dance , Blue could be R & B ...rinse and repeat on all the other possible colors  ...
 
Now why would I suggest this ? ...you can now have a pre set play list of a number of songs all ready to go with the time it takes SONAR to load the  one project ....a lot less can go wrong ...as long as these tunes are a selection of tunes you want play within a set ...
Since your tunes are not host tempo dependent this approach can work very good ...if you need a song count off  just include it in your your song / mix
 
Now you may ask , what is the benefit of even trying this out ?
 
Reason 1 , you can play to each and every song real fast with out having to load them ..
The whole key to this is to use the exclusive Solo feature in SONAR
hit w on your computers keyboard , SONAR rewinds to the beginning of the project ...
to play a new tune just hit the solo button on the track that has the mix of the tune you want to play ...
in SONAR's exclusive solo mode  this song will be the only track that plays ....all others are muted
 
Reason 2 , it never hurts to have a back up plan ....
 
Reason 3, this / my approach is not meant to replace what your opening post has asked about as a workflow for you at your gig . Its true value lies in the fact that people can be very mercurial when under stress at a gig ...
You may be distracted , tired , or people are talking to you while you are setting up your next tune in SONAR  ..
 
 
this is meant to be a way for you to augment your workflow in a way where if you don't feel like messing around/ tweaking one project per tune on the stage  .... while your supposed to be performing ....you don't have to ...
 
Use what works discard the rest  ...if it works cool ...at some point you may find out through trail and error  that you may even have a nice little group of songs and  playlists going on all in one SONAR project
 
Kenny

wow! thx kenny and tenfoot, you both went "above and beyond" there, and it is greatly appreciated! Thanks much :)