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I'm getting virus warnings from getpaint.net. Cakewalk suggest using this program, but I can't see a link from them. www.paint.net isn't a a website for a graphics program. I tried techrader, which tried installing Norton, then failed. I think I safe link should be provided if they are going to have a big advert for them. http://www.cakewalk.com/P.ducts/SONAR/Theme-Editor
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Re: Paint.net
August 20, 16 6:34 AM
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Re: Paint.net
August 20, 16 6:46 AM
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Thanks.
I can't access cnet. That may be temporary. Bloody communists.
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Re: Paint.net
August 20, 16 7:04 AM
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It's a 6.7mb zip file. If you PM me your email I could perhaps send it to you in an attachment...?
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Re: Paint.net
August 20, 16 7:49 AM
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Cool thanks.
Tried GIMP, results were a little clunky, probably need to work at it, but experiments are failing
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August 20, 16 8:03 AM
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Re: Paint.net
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Re: Paint.net
August 20, 16 11:44 AM
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False positive? You could download the exe and have it scanned online.
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Re: Paint.net
August 20, 16 1:31 PM
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☄ Helpfulby glennstanton August 23, 16 11:28 AM
erm... didn't realize Cake were promoting graphics tools. Might I recommend "Gimp" instead? Haven't used it in years but it's a freeware classic that rivals Photoshop. It's kind of like the Reaper of the graphics world. Also... I would be VERY wary of CNET downloads these days. They used to be awesome but they got took over a few years back and now their downloads are generally filled with weird bloatware (whose manufacturers pay to have their crap included). Just make SURE when downloading anything from CNET that as you install you pay CLOSE attention to what's being installed. There is generally opt outs for that crap but they can be sneaky/confusing. CNET is still pretty good for tech articles and reviews for the layperson though. When downloading these days I generally try to hunt down the software producer's own servers/mirrors/etc. 90% of the time they'll have their own donload on their own server relatively free of the sneaky gunkware. tl;dr... Use Gimp instead. edit: GIMP is to Photoshop what Reaper is to ProTools
post edited by Beepster - August 20, 16 2:01 PM
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Re: Paint.net
August 20, 16 2:12 PM
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It seems like www.getpaint.net is a safe website. What sort of virus warning are you getting?
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Re: Paint.net
August 20, 16 2:52 PM
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Kamikaze
I think I safe link should be provided if they are going to have a big advert for them.
http://www.cakewalk.com/P.ducts/SONAR/Theme-Editor
Okay... so I checked out the Cake link. That's not a "big advert" for paint.net. As far as I can tell there isn't even a link to their site. It is simply the Paint.net logo (which spells out the site name) and it's flanked by the logos for what I think is Corel Draw and on the other side the GIMP logo. On the bottom right is the Photoshop logo and to the left of that... IDK what that is. Anyway... that doesn't look like an actual endorsement for Paint.net. Just some graphics for common programs one could use to do image editing and export in formats the Theme Editor can use. Paint.net is a common online image editor people use just like GIMP, Corel and Photoshop are so the intent seems to be conveying the message you can just use whatever common photo/image editor you want. If Paint.net or wherever you are downloading from is setting off your AV alarms then that's on them, not Cakewalk. I'm guessing you could easily use MS Paint to alter Theme Editor images too. Cheers.
post edited by Beepster - August 20, 16 3:14 PM
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Re: Paint.net
August 20, 16 4:52 PM
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Re: Paint.net
August 20, 16 4:55 PM
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Re: Paint.net
August 20, 16 6:59 PM
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:-) Thanks John.
I have been trying to work up a Platinum Theme so that it appears similar to my daily DAW. I am hoping that Cakewalk will continue to improve the ability to edit the resources that can not currently be customized.
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Re: Paint.net
August 20, 16 10:24 PM
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Beepster
I'm guessing you could easily use MS Paint to alter Theme Editor images too. No, it doesn't handle transparency correctly. I use GIMP despite the user-hostile interface. I'm going to try later with Paint Shop Pro, it does gradients soooo much more easily.
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Re: Paint.net
August 20, 16 10:46 PM
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I tried a few hours later and it worked without the warning. The warning I was getting was one of these  Sorry Beebster I disagree. The advert fr Paint.net is large. Its not a ful screen, but along with the 3 others it is. It's on their promotional page, and they are suggesting it. I had not heard of paint.net until they advertised it. They are endorsing using it, plain and simple. It's good though, I'm glad I persisted. I had tried GIMP, and as Craig says te interface is hostile. There is one tool that my Sketcbook pro software (The equivalent I guess of Adobe illustrator, from Autodesk), the replace colour. This works much better than my fill tool. Craig, I'd say it's worth a go, it's a free tool and works well. You don't get Paint.net from paint.net, they sell industrial paint. But you can get it from here. http://www.dotpdn.com/downloads/pdn.html
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Re: Paint.net
August 21, 16 1:26 AM
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I find paint.net MUCH easier to use than GIMP
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Re: Paint.net
August 21, 16 7:52 AM
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Paint.net works great for my needs. Like a deluxe / expanded version of MS Paint (transparencies, etc...). It was very easy to get up to speed...
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Re: Paint.net
August 21, 16 1:04 PM
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I'm also a fine artist who does some graphic design on the computer. I haven't gotten into the theme editor because I have Sonar Artist, but have downloading some of the various themes other folks have created and opened them in Artist to see what they looked like. In my personal opinion, a vector illustration program like Adobe Illustrator, or the much cheaper Draw Plus, or even the free Inkscape would be better suited for this job instead of these image manipulation programs mentioned in this forum. One good reason for using vector illustration programs is that you can zoom way in to fine tune your design without the image becoming pixelated and distorted like these image manipulation programs do.
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Re: Paint.net
August 21, 16 1:52 PM
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Kamikaze
I tried a few hours later and it worked without the warning. The warning I was getting was one of these
Sorry Beebster I disagree. The advert fr Paint.net is large. Its not a ful screen, but along with the 3 others it is. It's on their promotional page, and they are suggesting it. I had not heard of paint.net until they advertised it. They are endorsing using it, plain and simple.
It's good though, I'm glad I persisted. I had tried GIMP, and as Craig says te interface is hostile. There is one tool that my Sketcbook pro software (The equivalent I guess of Adobe illustrator, from Autodesk), the replace colour. This works much better than my fill tool.
Craig, I'd say it's worth a go, it's a free tool and works well. You don't get Paint.net from paint.net, they sell industrial paint. But you can get it from here.
http://www.dotpdn.com/downloads/pdn.html
I use paint.net. love it. that's the same link I used but didn't get any warnings. your AV flagged it because of all the adds, not because paint is harmful.
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Re: Paint.net
August 21, 16 2:51 PM
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Kamikadze, It is most likely false positive. You could always verify smaller files (up to 50MB) on jotti service where they use 19 different antivirs ( https://virusscan.jotti.org ) paint.net.4.0.10.install.zip Size: 6.69MB (7,019,951 bytes) Type:Zip archive First seen: July 10, 2016 at 8:28:49 PM GMT+2 MD5:36f477a1ef92fe6fd307707888141ab3 SHA1:f5127a6b4ae907249c830d6bd2cb7481953e962f Status:Scan finished. 0/19 scanners reported malware. Scan taken on:August 21, 2016 at 8:46:39 PM GMT+2
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Re: Paint.net
August 21, 16 8:31 PM
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DeBro
... a vector illustration program like Adobe Illustrator, or the much cheaper Draw Plus, or even the free Inkscape would be better suited for this job instead of these image manipulation programs mentioned in this forum.
Derek - I haven't tried the Theme Editor myself, but I'm going to guess that the existing elements are bitmaps, and must be returned to the theme after adjustments as bitmaps. Can a vector program open bitmaps, manipulate them as vector images, then save as bitmaps? If so, right on, although for audio geeks like me who are taking baby steps with Paint.net or GIMP, Illustrator might be a tough learning curve to climb.
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Re: Paint.net
August 21, 16 9:20 PM
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I personally use Xara Designer Pro (though their Graphic Designer might do the job). It's a vector and photo app combined. Since I'm a web designer by "job" it's part of what I use anyway. Thought it might be of interest. http:///xara.com
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Re: Paint.net
August 22, 16 10:28 AM
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Larry, all vector programs can open bitmap images and export as bitmaps.
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Re: Paint.net
August 22, 16 7:10 PM
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Another PAINT.NET user here. But only because it's the only non-Paint app I've downloaded and seems to do the job. 
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Re: Paint.net
August 23, 16 2:49 AM
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DeBro
Larry, all vector programs can open bitmap images and export as bitmaps.
And in between the file is manipulated as if it were a vector image? I mean, no pixelation or distortion, regardless of zoom level? (Just trying to get this straight in my mind.)
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Re: Paint.net
August 23, 16 10:01 AM
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DeBro
I'm also a fine artist who does some graphic design on the computer. I haven't gotten into the theme editor because I have Sonar Artist, but have downloading some of the various themes other folks have created and opened them in Artist to see what they looked like. In my personal opinion, a vector illustration program like Adobe Illustrator, or the much cheaper Draw Plus, or even the free Inkscape would be better suited for this job instead of these image manipulation programs mentioned in this forum. One good reason for using vector illustration programs is that you can zoom way in to fine tune your design without the image becoming pixelated and distorted like these image manipulation programs do.
But most themes are just colour manipulation. not image recreation. So I don't see the the connection. Mine took textures from a photo image, so I don't see how a vector would be beneficial. If you were creating new icon and and buttons shapes, maybe I'd see the benefit. I used a a raster program (Sketchbook Pro), which has benefits for shading it seems over vector based from what I've read.
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Re: Paint.net
August 23, 16 11:11 AM
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since i grew up (only kidding, no growing up here :-)) using photoshop, GIMP was the answer for me. paintshopro is also a good candidate. would skip vector programs.
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Re: Paint.net
August 23, 16 1:21 PM
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DeBro
I'm also a fine artist who does some graphic design on the computer. I haven't gotten into the theme editor because I have Sonar Artist, but have downloading some of the various themes other folks have created and opened them in Artist to see what they looked like. In my personal opinion, a vector illustration program like Adobe Illustrator, or the much cheaper Draw Plus, or even the free Inkscape would be better suited for this job instead of these image manipulation programs mentioned in this forum. One good reason for using vector illustration programs is that you can zoom way in to fine tune your design without the image becoming pixelated and distorted like these image manipulation programs do.
But most themes are just colour manipulation. not image recreation. So I don't see the the connection. Mine took textures from a photo image, so I don't see how a vector would be beneficial.
If you were creating new icon and and buttons shapes, maybe I'd see the benefit. I used a a raster program (Sketchbook Pro), which has benefits for shading it seems over vector based from what I've read.
You are indeed correct. I took a look at the video tutorials about the theme editor on Cakewalk TV and it was all about image manipulation. I would surely like to have a go at the theme editor. Guess I'll have to upgrade.
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