jolaw
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sonar platinum users
Hi folks , just asking for your honest opinions . I'm currently using platinum and had just upgraded to window 10 . Lately especially i do have thoughts of switching to another DAW as i can be quite frustrated with this platinum . I have encountered error pop up or audio drop out . i have always encountered my platinum shutting down whenever i'm using it and More so when i upgraded to window 10 . Also i bought the rapture pro ( vst 3) and it will always take a while to load or change new sounds . SO right now i'm hesitant to buy the lifetime upgrades .
How is your experience with platinum ? Do you guys encountered the problems i mentioned ?
Thanks for sharing
Bests regards Jo
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Re: sonar platinum users
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I was using a Alien ware m18x r1 2960xm , dual 6990m GPU, 32 gb hyper x , rme babyface , and SPLAT HATED IT for a year and a half , problem after problem with drivers versus SPLAT , SPLAT always victorious, drop outs gallore and daily aswell as mini dumps .
I swapped to my desktop , 980x rampage iii extreme , dual 450gts GPU, 24 GB , and The whole experience changed SPLAT loves it , it works flawlessly . Like i wanna cry it runs so perfectly . i now use my alien ware as a slave PC via a crossover cable and every day is a pleasure . Yes sonar has some bugs and what not but the main problems will always be the system your using , i.e. drivers ,hardware .
This is just my experience others may differ .
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Re: sonar platinum users
2016/08/25 01:56:34
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Sonar Platinum is running rock solid for me.
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Re: sonar platinum users
2016/08/25 02:09:01
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Runs very well here too... Lots of hours. My only crash scenario is when I change to/from a song containing some unruly 32bit vst... Live recordings (8 hours/7 bands type situations) as well as many, many hours of studio work..
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Re: sonar platinum users
2016/08/25 02:45:45
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I don't get crashes, dropouts or lockups no matter what I do in Platinum.
It would help if you could add your entire system spec to your signature, especially details of your interface & drivers
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Re: sonar platinum users
2016/08/25 02:46:47
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Hey mate
You will probably get everyone on the forum helping you get up and running quickly if you can post your computer specs, soundcard, amount of ram etc. This is a great forum with lots of Sonar knowledge and friendly people.
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Re: sonar platinum users
2016/08/25 03:01:03
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Re: sonar platinum users
2016/08/25 03:23:16
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Hello,
sorry to hear about your probs with Splat.
Splat is running like"butter"on my systems .
Without knowing any system specs of your system it´s
impossible to help you in that situation.
Did you try a clean installation of Win 10 ?
All the best
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Re: sonar platinum users
2016/08/25 03:24:40
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Platinum seems very solid on Windows 10
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Re: sonar platinum users
2016/08/25 03:39:45
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The only issues I have had are; Crashes using Drumcore 4, much improved since the last Drumcore update and occasional audio engine dropouts using Softube Modular when there are a lot of modules in use.
I don't think the fault for either of these issues can be attributed to Sonar.
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Re: sonar platinum users
2016/08/25 05:32:09
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You will have problems with no matter what DAW you choose until you get your system setup properly. It always comes down to simple things like drivers for your interface, audio settings on your pc, sometimes video, power management if you have a laptop, USB issues. Win10 is the best platform for SONAR so far, and Platinum is the best version of SONAR so far. But it does so very much, it's hard to get a good grasp on it, but once you do, you will find it very easy to do most basic and middle ground tasks. Every DAW is the same. You have to get to know it, and the only way to do that, is to actually do some real work. It's like being a musician. Unless you just get out and play, you can stay in your bedroom and get no where (unless you are Van Halen, who seems like that is mostly what he DID do!!). So give yourself a project. A song you want to record, a band you want to record. Whatever. And then get on here, put up your equipment specs, and let these guys help you to get up and running, then get into the tutorials in the Cake University or just Youtube everything you want to learn. It's all out there. You may still yet change to another DAW. That's cool. Everyone finds the DAW that suits them in the end. I prefer this one. I wanted to prefer Pro Tools, because I spent so much money and time and because everyone said I had to, but now I'm putting out albums instead of continually wrestling with the software. I could never get my head around Cubase for example. Gave up.
Put up your specs, and your issues, and get up and running properly, then make up your mind on the DAW.
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Re: sonar platinum users
2016/08/25 05:43:06
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This sounds like inadequate hardware or the OP is running at too high settings for what their hardware is capable of, e.g. bit depth and frequency, possibly ASIO buffering. Some VSTs e.g. Omnisphere become extreme resource hogs at higher settings and can cause instability unless your system is meaty enough to feed them properly.
I'm on Win 10 and other than a couple of utterly rotten bugs in very specific circumstances in Sonar Platinum it is stable.
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Re: sonar platinum users
2016/08/25 05:53:27
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☄ Helpfulby BobF 2016/08/25 09:08:01
I had quite a few issues with Windows 10, but they are all related to my anti-virus programs. I'm not sure if this is why you might be experiencing issues, but if it might help, here's my tale:
I was originally using Kaspersky Anti-virus, which ran beautifully for me on Windows 7. But after upgrading Kaspersky (to the new Pure version) and Windows (from 7 to 10,) began a period of time where Sonar Platinum in particular became unusable. I had pretty much every glitch you could imagine encountering and more often than not, couldn't even get it to open without crashing. I didn't have the same trouble with other DAW's like FL and Studio One, but for some reason Sonar was held up or blocked almost every time I tried to run it.
I did a search and found that some people (not all) were experiencing a problem with Kaspersky, where it ignores user file and program exclusions and just blocks everything. I did a reinstall and even manually re-clicked the safety level exclusions, but still had major issues with Sonar. It culminated with not even being able to get google chrome to open, so in the end I got rid of Kaspersky and tried Bit Defender. It was better for most things, I could actually open Sonar but it would take a while to load up and I was still having trouble with stability.
I placed exclusions in Bit Defender for Sonar's folder and the Command Centre as well and then ran the Command Centre as Administrator to install the latest update. I ran Sonar as Administrator to open it up and for the first time in two months, it opened in seconds and there hasn't been a hitch since.
I was also finding my Quad Capture ASIO drivers would disappear from time to time, forcing me to restart. The fix was to place my Quad Capture file folder in the file exclusions as well. This was happening in other DAWs as well as Sonar, not something I ever had to bother with in Windows 7, but for some reason I had to now.
Note: I also found that placing file extension exclusions for loops, instruments, WAVs and NCW (native instruments sample files), made the start up of some of my samplers so much quicker. I was getting regular hang ups with large files, that would take forever to load and sometimes lead to a crash.
I'm not sure if this is the fix for you? But it might be something to look at before doing the whole unistall/reinstall schemozzle.
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Re: sonar platinum users
2016/08/25 06:15:06
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I used a laptop for a year and a half it was a Alienware 2011 ,m18x r1 ,2960xm ,32 gb , dual 6990m . The laptop did not get along with SPLAT and I had drop outs and everything under the sun if not daily then every couple days . Eventually I had enough and decided to swap to my 2011 desktop 2011 also 980x , rampage iii extreme, 24 gb , dual gts 450 and SPLAT loves it , honestly I can't believe looking back at the difference between 2 different PCS and how different SPLAT runs between them both ( polar opposites ) , I think SPLAT decides if the system is worthy or not and in my experience I have learnt through the world of frustration that's it's always hardware , drivers , that need to be looked at first .
Honestly there was a point looking back where I remember my thoughts through those dark days ( was it win 10 , or drivers , or the Babyface with the m18x , or splat , or me , or them and it was just the hardware combination .
Good luck .
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Re: sonar platinum users
2016/08/25 06:16:05
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The best advise I can give anyone is...you cant expect to run sonar on something like this:  and not have problems. 
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jolaw
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Re: sonar platinum users
2016/08/25 06:30:55
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hi everyone , firstly thank you for taking your time to reply my post . Much appreciated !
I"m using HP pc , intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3550 CPU @3.30hz 3.30 ghz , 16 gb ram. Upgraded to win 10 home .
I only have a korg M50 connected to my pc , no audio interface . For my audio driver i use asio4all . I have other softsynths such as east west gold edition , komplete 9 , rapture pro, strum Gs2 , addictive drum 1 and 2 ,
By the way what is the best settings for the buffer size ? is 6.5msec the best ? I encountered latency problem when i was doing music scoring for a short video. I shifted the slider almost to the extreme left ( Fast )
And no , i didn't try to do a clean installation of win 10 , i just upgraded from win 7 to 10 .
Will prefer to stick to sonar though all my friends are all mac users .
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Re: sonar platinum users
2016/08/25 06:50:18
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Hi. I suspect the reason for your drop outs might be your internal soundcard. Have you tried to switch to WDM/KS, MME or WASAPI? It might work well for playback, but for recording, I recommend a dedicated Audio Interface.
All the best.
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Re: sonar platinum users
2016/08/25 06:51:11
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And regarding Mac. SONAR is due to release a Mac (Alpha) version this autumn.
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Re: sonar platinum users
2016/08/25 07:19:23
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I think the upgrade 7 to 10 is fine, a lot of people have done that here, but asio4all, win10 and Splat do not get along very well, even though the latest survey results suggest a lot of people do use asio4all apparently. It would be interesting to survey those users and find out if there are common themes here for troubles such as yours. But, even though I will probably get shot down here, my biggest advice to you is to do away with the m-audio card, asio4all, and get something like an RME, Focusrite, Tascam etc, audio interface, with midi in/out, running a dedicated device driver, and hook your m50 and everything else up that way. I really don't think you will be able to move forward unless you do. edit - I'm not sure how I decided you had an M-audio card lol!! some other thread maybe... I'm working whilst on here. Anyway. Sorry. But I guess you get my intention. cheers. Dave.
post edited by MacFurse - 2016/08/25 07:55:01
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Re: sonar platinum users
2016/08/25 07:43:59
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There have been very different experiences from updating Win 7 to 10. For me it works flawless, but there have been several threads arround regarding different problems like crackles aso. A lot of that problems disappead through a clean installation. And , like mentioned above, the onboard audio chip and Splat is not a good team, it´s like a ferrari on bicycle tires or so.
post edited by Pragi - 2016/08/28 17:35:46
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Re: sonar platinum users
2016/08/25 09:40:24
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jolaw
hi everyone , firstly thank you for taking your time to reply my post . Much appreciated !
I"m using HP pc , intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3550 CPU @3.30hz 3.30 ghz , 16 gb ram. Upgraded to win 10 home .
I only have a korg M50 connected to my pc , no audio interface . For my audio driver i use asio4all . I have other softsynths such as east west gold edition , komplete 9 , rapture pro, strum Gs2 , addictive drum 1 and 2 ,
By the way what is the best settings for the buffer size ? is 6.5msec the best ? I encountered latency problem when i was doing music scoring for a short video. I shifted the slider almost to the extreme left ( Fast )
And no , i didn't try to do a clean installation of win 10 , i just upgraded from win 7 to 10 .
Will prefer to stick to sonar though all my friends are all mac users .
I'd strongly suggest buying an audio interface. You have way too much money tied up in your system to not get the proper performance out of it. Even a cheap sub $150 would be much better.
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Re: sonar platinum users
2016/08/25 10:01:34
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Runs super great here. Can't say the same for myself as the hi-hats are still too %^&$ loud. >:
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Re: sonar platinum users
2016/08/25 10:09:30
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NO problem at all in Sonar Platinum. Lot of production here! Some problems with Windows until the anniversary release. Now the recording / editing studio is working at his best! My opinion is that it's primarily important to match the software with a good audio interface. This improves greatly the stability and the affordability.
post edited by piangio - 2016/08/25 10:33:09
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Re: sonar platinum users
2016/08/25 12:09:31
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Another +1 on using a real ASIO interface. ASIO4ALL can work, but it can also produce the exact systems described - dropouts, freezes, etc. In many cases it's not enough to have a different driver installed with ASIO4ALL still on the system. I had a friend with a laptop who installed ASIO4ALL, got sick of the problems, and bought a quality interface with well-written drivers. However, he still had problems with the audio interface that only went away when he uninstalled all traces of ASIO4ALL from his system.
I think if no one used ASIO4ALL, the "SONAR doesn't work" posts in the forum would drop dramatically.
FWIW I haven't had a freeze or crash in SONAR in at least six months. I did have two projects with dropouts, but when the Toast notification popped up saying there had been a dropout, I clicked on Help. The suggestion about changing the hard drive buffer size solved the problem for one project, and saving the other as a bundle file, then re-opening it, de-fragmented that project so it no longer had dropouts.
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Re: sonar platinum users
2016/08/25 18:48:29
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Well if your seeing double its because one message got lost in a recycle bin !!!!!
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Re: sonar platinum users
2016/08/25 19:56:34
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jolaw
hi everyone , firstly thank you for taking your time to reply my post . Much appreciated !
I only have a korg M50 connected to my pc , no audio interface . For my audio driver i use asio4all .
This is most likely the root of your problems. you can run into some really weird instability with asio4all and onboard audio. We have plans to improve onboard audio support later on but honestly if you want the best experience with SONAR buy a 2 in 2 out or higher audio interface from Tascam, RME, Focusrite, or MOTU. You will get a way higher user experience stable low latency playback and better audio quality as well. Its worth the investment.
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Re: sonar platinum users
2016/08/25 20:20:53
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The only problem I seem to keep having is missing audio files. I open a project and get the missing audio files screen and can't figure out how to find them or why they disappeared in the first place. Any suggestions?
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Re: sonar platinum users
2016/08/25 20:30:15
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If you are seeking a solution, it might be a good idea to start your own thread.
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